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Old Mar 20, 17, 6:25 pm   #16
  
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Kind of the same thing.
But....it's one thing for emergency or security services to scramble for a a false alarm of crime or disaster. It's quite another to expend the amount of time and resource described here based on a report of dirty pictures on a guy's mobile.
The first is bad on the false reporter. The second is bad on the overreacting responders.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 7:46 pm   #17
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I'd be curious to know what the community standards laws are to pornography in SAT before making assumptions as to what is "disturbing images".
You don't need to make assumptions. A citizen reported "disturbing images" and law enforcement investigated.

Not all investigations turn into arrests, prosecutions, and convictions.
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An awful experience to be sure, but I'm not sure what the ethnicities of the various officers had to do with anything.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 7:54 pm   #19
  
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What did y'all think of this tale of woe and a missed SNL episode?
A horrible experience, OP. But on the bright side, SNL was decidedly unfunny last week so you didn't miss anything.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 7:58 pm   #20
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You don't need to make assumptions. A citizen reported "disturbing images" and law enforcement investigated.

Not all investigations turn into arrests, prosecutions, and convictions.
I object to the citizen not being held accountable to defend their concerns/paranoia and for the cop demonstrating poor judgment using this unsubstantiated "concern" as a reason to detain, interrogate and arrest. A couple of paranoid citizens and pitbull cops being financially ruined would go a long way to restoring common sense and humility in our society.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 8:01 pm   #21
  
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I object to the citizen not being held accountable to defend their concerns/paranoia and for the cop demonstrating poor judgment using this unsubstantiated "concern" as a reason to detain, interrogate and arrest. A couple of paranoid citizens and pitbull cops being financially ruined would go a long way to restoring common sense and humility in our society.
While I don't disagree with you, it will never happen. They don't want to deter people from speaking up for fear of being held accountable, especially if involved 'being financially ruined'.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 8:15 pm   #22
  
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I'm not sure who you are complaining about?
The guy who reported you when he saw explicit images of Asian women and you travelling with a young Asian girl (in your words "Perception is everything")
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the authorities who investigated based on information received?

If the images were of naked men and you, as a male, were travelling with a young boy would that be a different scenario? Your "normal" is not everybody's "normal".

Maybe just delete the images in future?
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Old Mar 20, 17, 8:23 pm   #23
  
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While I don't have those images on my own phone, I can't fathom in a million years summoning the cops because a nearby adult was viewing b00bies on their own phone. That's hardly "disturbing" and hardly a public display.

And no, I don't think cops everywhere would react so stupidly. I think - hope? - some would tell the busybody to MYOFB.
Under Texas law, OP could've ended up charged with a Class A misdemeanor under section 43.23 of the Texas Penal Code. An act of obscenity is the intentional possession and promotion of obscene material and is a criminal offense. Not keeping it from a stranger's view (or indeed showing it to another willing viewer) can be seen by Texas courts as an act of promotion.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 9:42 pm   #24
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Hold on.

There was a complaint by a citizen to law enforcement about OP displaying "disturbing images" in a public location. That drew a series of investigative questions by local law enforcement as it would pretty much anywhere in the US.

What OP thinks about those picture and their appropriateness is not relevant. He displayed them in a public place where others who apparently don't share his views of what is appropriate, were sufficiently concerned that they called the cops.

What followed is pretty standard. This isn't a debate about where to draw the line, it is simply a statement about what one displays in public.
If they had truthfully reported the images as being of naked adults I don't think any of this would have happened.

I think a lot of stuff like this could be avoided if when faced with such reports the cops simply come out and explain what they have been told and give the person a chance to explain first. Disturbing images on the phone? Flip through, see there's simply some nudity. 5 minutes, end of case.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 9:58 pm   #25
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If they had truthfully reported the images as being of naked adults I don't think any of this would have happened.

I think a lot of stuff like this could be avoided if when faced with such reports the cops simply come out and explain what they have been told and give the person a chance to explain first. Disturbing images on the phone? Flip through, see there's simply some nudity. 5 minutes, end of case.
This.

It's possible to investigate reports without automatically assuming the worst at the outset and going overboard. As you note, often just asking the pax and using a modicum of civility and common sense can resolve the issue without unnecessary drama and delay.
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Old Mar 20, 17, 10:21 pm   #26
  
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Except it ignores the pertinent part of the OP.

"He then asked me what phone I had and if he could see it. I told him it was an iPhone 6 & no, he couldn't see it. I don't give my phones to strangers, let alone cops. If he had the right to see it without my permission, he wouldn't have asked for permission."
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Old Mar 21, 17, 5:31 am   #27
  
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It's here where I finally get an explanation. Someone had made a complaint of seeing "disturbing images" on my cell phone while I was on the plane.
(...)
So I had a few titty pics on my phone. Big deal. My friends are always sending them to me, "Hey, RussianTexan, isn't this Thai chick hot?! Whoa, check out the hooters on this Japanese porn star! Whoooooo!"
(...)
So when I woke up all jet-laggy in the final hour of our flight from EWR to SAT, I decided to flip through my vacation pictures and warmly reminisce. I'd have 40 pictures of family vacation awesomeness followed by 2 or 3 images of naked, adult women. I'd focus on the family pictures and when a titty pic came up I'd just quickly scroll through so as not to offend anyone's sensibilities. (...)

I was sitting next to my stepdad. So he saw some titty pics and like most idiots, has no idea how to tell the difference between Asian people and confused the 32G-breasted Japanese porn star Sakura Sena for my 13-year-old, half-Asian, half-Russian little sister.
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On a side note, I would find appropriate to look at such pictures while sitting to one's stepdad, or while sitting in a public place, either.

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Old Mar 21, 17, 8:00 am   #28
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Under Texas law, OP could've ended up charged with a Class A misdemeanor under section 43.23 of the Texas Penal Code. An act of obscenity is the intentional possession and promotion of obscene material and is a criminal offense. Not keeping it from a stranger's view (or indeed showing it to another willing viewer) can be seen by Texas courts as an act of promotion.
Okay, setting aside for a moment the definition of "obscene" in a theocracy like Texas, he wasn't approached by the police and question under suspicion of that particular violation. If it was really about that, most reasonable cops would simply give the man a verbal warning (given the incidental viewing and the complete soft-core, non-obscene nature of the material) and move on.
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...and since no one has mentioned it yet there are probably two sides to this story. And as a public forum everything said here does not require a warrant for a law enforcement officer/DA to discover.
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Old Mar 21, 17, 12:04 pm   #30
  
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Note to self - do not browse any images on phone at public places and especially on a plane/airport.
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