Four Brooklyn men claim they were kicked off flight for looking too Muslim
Jan 21, 2016, 10:55 am
#46
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From the American Airlines Contract of Carriage:
INAL but seems like American, and I would think other airlines use similar language, can remove a person for just about any reason or no reason.
Maybe flyer groups need to challenge the validity of these one sided contracts.
INAL but seems like American, and I would think other airlines use similar language, can remove a person for just about any reason or no reason.
Maybe flyer groups need to challenge the validity of these one sided contracts.
Jan 21, 2016, 11:27 am
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I'm not a legal expert by any means but this to me seems to suggest that the list is not all inclusive.
In other words the reason does not even have to be on the list to be considered valid. So it does seem to me they can remove you for any reason of their choice.
for one or several reasons, including but not limited to:
Jan 21, 2016, 11:46 am
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Just because a contract has a clause doesn't necessarily make that clause enforceable in any and all courts of law.
Jan 21, 2016, 11:52 am
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Just because a contract says that other grounds for terminating/changing contract are not ruled out does not mean that the other grounds are valid legal grounds for terminating/changing the contract without counterparty consent.
Just because a contract has a clause doesn't necessarily make that clause enforceable in any and all courts of law.
Just because a contract has a clause doesn't necessarily make that clause enforceable in any and all courts of law.
Jan 21, 2016, 1:16 pm
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Because companies want to try to have their cake and eat it too, if they can find a gullible party or a corporate apologist to fall for or sell the contract of adhesion's language as if the open-ended language is the final word in some court or another even when it isn't.
Jan 21, 2016, 8:53 pm
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This the reason as a Sikh I have stopped flying AA and flying to the USA. I now prefer to spend my money where it is wanted.
However, I did see in the comments of an American newspaper that the commentator was a passenger on the flight and these guys were drunk and boisterous.
Looking at the Sikh guys pics - may not be too shocked by that.
Guess the real truth will not come out unless there really is a trial.
However, I did see in the comments of an American newspaper that the commentator was a passenger on the flight and these guys were drunk and boisterous.
Looking at the Sikh guys pics - may not be too shocked by that.
Guess the real truth will not come out unless there really is a trial.
Jan 21, 2016, 9:15 pm
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The commenter was either Annie Jacobsen or Todd Petruna.
Jan 22, 2016, 12:43 pm
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OK, my defense of the FA on the ground that the FA was "too dumb to pour rainwater out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel," and my (apparent) contention that stupidity is a legitimate defense for the FA's behavior didn't clue you in to my true attitude?