Anothe expensive "future of security" machine
Dec 1, 2015, 5:23 am
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Anothe expensive "future of security" machine
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innova...ook.com&no-ist
As a fan of technology, I'm always intrigued by new machines that are purported to do something better, faster, or more efficiently than old machines or human labor. But I always get a suspicious tingle in the back of my mind when such a claim is made about a security-related machine.
This Qylatron scanner might be great. Or it might be the next billion-dollar boondoggle pursued by the US government in its never-ending quest to make us all safe from our own emotions.
Shape recognition is iffy. Constantly-learning AI is iffy. Putting two if's together makes for a pretty big risk of false positives and over-reactions.
On the other hand, I can't imagine this machine doing a worse job at critical thinking and discretionary judgements than the current crop of TSOs, so maybe it would actually be an improvement.
Anyway, with the machine on the market, I'm sure it's only a matter of tick-tocks before some senator gets a major campaign contribution from the company and rams purchase of a bunch of the machines down TSA's throat. If only the manufacturers of the automated bin return slides would do that, it would significantly reduce staffing needs at c/p's!
As a fan of technology, I'm always intrigued by new machines that are purported to do something better, faster, or more efficiently than old machines or human labor. But I always get a suspicious tingle in the back of my mind when such a claim is made about a security-related machine.
This Qylatron scanner might be great. Or it might be the next billion-dollar boondoggle pursued by the US government in its never-ending quest to make us all safe from our own emotions.
Shape recognition is iffy. Constantly-learning AI is iffy. Putting two if's together makes for a pretty big risk of false positives and over-reactions.
On the other hand, I can't imagine this machine doing a worse job at critical thinking and discretionary judgements than the current crop of TSOs, so maybe it would actually be an improvement.
Anyway, with the machine on the market, I'm sure it's only a matter of tick-tocks before some senator gets a major campaign contribution from the company and rams purchase of a bunch of the machines down TSA's throat. If only the manufacturers of the automated bin return slides would do that, it would significantly reduce staffing needs at c/p's!
Dec 1, 2015, 5:30 am
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I am still waiting for the technology that will let us keep our shoes on.
Israel has the mag shoe machine and Europe does not make you take off shoes unless it it is a high boot or with metal buckles, and when will the paranoia of buying liquids from secured areas be lifted so that I can bring my bottled water on the plane?
Israel has the mag shoe machine and Europe does not make you take off shoes unless it it is a high boot or with metal buckles, and when will the paranoia of buying liquids from secured areas be lifted so that I can bring my bottled water on the plane?
Dec 1, 2015, 9:45 am
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I am still waiting for the technology that will let us keep our shoes on.
Israel has the mag shoe machine and Europe does not make you take off shoes unless it it is a high boot or with metal buckles, and when will the paranoia of buying liquids from secured areas be lifted so that I can bring my bottled water on the plane?
Israel has the mag shoe machine and Europe does not make you take off shoes unless it it is a high boot or with metal buckles, and when will the paranoia of buying liquids from secured areas be lifted so that I can bring my bottled water on the plane?
Just like the NoS that Germany decried for unreliability and ineffectiveness - but that are now being installed at German airports.
Dec 1, 2015, 10:10 am
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http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innova...ook.com&no-ist
As a fan of technology, I'm always intrigued by new machines that are purported to do something better, faster, or more efficiently than old machines or human labor. But I always get a suspicious tingle in the back of my mind when such a claim is made about a security-related machine.
As a fan of technology, I'm always intrigued by new machines that are purported to do something better, faster, or more efficiently than old machines or human labor. But I always get a suspicious tingle in the back of my mind when such a claim is made about a security-related machine.
If you like technology, here are some patents on the device
Multi-threat detection portal:
EP 2257902 A2 (text from WO2009134496A2)
CA 2582375 C
US 8113071 B2
Other articles suggested that TSA is already in testing of the device, OR will soon be testing the device soon.
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The TSA is hooked to the machine strip searching of passengers. Their dream machines to search in multiple ways at nearly the same time are to include electronic strip searching of passengers.
Dec 1, 2015, 4:59 pm
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Dec 2, 2015, 9:58 pm
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With the layout of the thing I don't see the claimed possibility of 600 people per hour using it. Passengers have several bags they are carrying, you have to put it in on one side and go around to the other. Get a couple of slow people in there and the line comes to a halt.
Dec 3, 2015, 10:12 am
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With the layout of the thing I don't see the claimed possibility of 600 people per hour using it. Passengers have several bags they are carrying, you have to put it in on one side and go around to the other. Get a couple of slow people in there and the line comes to a halt.
Throw in even a WTMD and that number will go down significantly.
Dec 3, 2015, 11:33 am
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I'd bet that those claims were made by the manufacturer, who tested it without regard to screening the people. I.E., the people put their bags in, walked around, and took their bags out, without getting any screening themselves.
Throw in even a WTMD and that number will go down significantly.
Throw in even a WTMD and that number will go down significantly.
I have seen some travelers take up the entire lentgh of the xray rollers with their carry on bags.
Dec 3, 2015, 11:55 am
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By the description of the machine at the link in the first post I think people are misunderstanding how this thing works.
Insert boarding pass and door opens. Insert bag. If it tests ok door reopens, if not door does not open.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innova...ook.com&no-ist
The description in the article doesn't say there is a pass through as there is with the current x-ray systems.
This thing could easily slow down checkpoints to a crawl.
To be useful any screening machine needs continuous flow through.
Insert boarding pass and door opens. Insert bag. If it tests ok door reopens, if not door does not open.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innova...ook.com&no-ist
A patron puts his or her ticket in the machine’s ticket slot, which opens a door to one of the pods. The person then places a bag inside, and the door locks. Inside the machine, various sensors scan the bag for weapons and other banned items. If the bag is determined to be safe, the door unlocks. If not, an alarm goes off to begin a security procedure.
This thing could easily slow down checkpoints to a crawl.
To be useful any screening machine needs continuous flow through.