Worcester

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6726506.html

Check in could now require arrival at the airport 5 hours before the flight.

GUWonder

They are dreaming if they think such long times to check in for a flight isn't going to kill off some business for the airlines. And hand searches of hitherto sealed bags invites additional risk not only of theft but also other more troublesome outcomes for passengers than even theft of bags/baggage items.

:D!

Not sure what relevance a UK minister's comments on procedures at airports in the Middle East have, unless he is planning to impose extra "security" staff there like the US does, or Australia's completely ineffective manual gate checks for water bottles.

chollie

Presumably equal or greater attention is being paid to airport workers. I haven't seen anything yet that indicates the Russian flight was taken down by something that got aboard with a pax or in a pax's belongings - checked or carry-on.

GUWonder

For a bomb to get smuggled onto a plane without involving passengers' baggage doesn't require that an airport worker was knowingly involved. For example, hotel staff can meddle with cabin/cockpit crew belongings by adulterating their belongings; or off-site cargo handlers can do much the same; or shop-keeper/salesperson could provide a sales item or gift to airline crew that is a bomb. The possibilities are anything but limited, but indeed the Egyptian interior ministry is working the Egyptian airport workers hard. And given the methods used by the Egyptian security forces, let's just say confessions in Egypt aren't always all that reliable.

Absent recovery of bomb components, what is there to even exclude the possibility of a bomb having been placed on the plane in Russia prior to take-off to Egypt? Timed/scheduled/called-in detonations are well possible, as are pressure-trigger/repeated pressure-trigger detonations.

Given all the signals intelligence picked up from around the area, it's rather readily possible for some to search the data of phone calls that may have reached the plane if it was a called-in detonation -- assuming a call wasn't used to trigger a timer instead of just triggering a bomb.



A foreign country can restrict the ability of carriers to fly to/from it from another country and do so on the condition of the other country meeting specific, demanded criteria/changes when it comes to aviation services. And usually it's the more powerful/wealthier pushing around the less powerful/poorer to make changes that suit the more powerful/wealthier foreign sovereign. Carrots and sticks.

Boggie Dog

Perhaps they will start getting the attention that has been missing.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/11...port-security/

ou81two

On the bright side, it encourages you to avoid countries filled with violent religious extremists.

GUWonder

Extremists need encouragement for that? Which countries would those be?

Turkey and Egypt have had huge numbers of tourists who've come and gone with fond memories of their trips. Not much different than the US in that regard -- even as not all countries have so many religious extremists who've advocated for their own state's military invasion in so many countries so far away from home and thereby fostered the creation of even more violent extremists.

Violence has consequences, including state's going to extreme measures for reasons that aren't all that good. Enough five hour waits at the airport due to "extreme" "security" and the outcomes aren't a general improvement for the public.