DEN TSA rigs WBI in order to grope male genitals
Apr 24, 2015, 8:14 am
#166
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Unfortunately, my somewhat dry sense of humor doesn't always translate to the internet. The incidents of theft at the checkpoint should be zero.
What is an assistant administrator? Does the assistant administrator have a vice-assistant administrator in case something happens to him/her?
I think I've discovered part of the reason that the budget is so high...
Mik
What is an assistant administrator? Does the assistant administrator have a vice-assistant administrator in case something happens to him/her?
I think I've discovered part of the reason that the budget is so high...
Mik
Since you asked.....
All of the Program Offices senior position are titled as Assistant Administrators with the exception of Fancine Kerner who is listed as Chief Counsel.
It certainly seems to be an awful lot of senior executive types.
http://www.tsa.gov/about-tsa/leadership
All of the Program Offices senior position are titled as Assistant Administrators with the exception of Fancine Kerner who is listed as Chief Counsel.
It certainly seems to be an awful lot of senior executive types.
http://www.tsa.gov/about-tsa/leadership
That and all of the AAs and DAAs are not regular Senior Executive Service (SES), they're considered Transportation Security Executive Service (TSES). Just like us TSOs aren't General Schedule but our own unique little pay band system.
Because hey, we're TSA, we do things differently!
Apr 24, 2015, 9:26 am
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Yes, all offices have a Deputy Assistant Administrator under the AA. Followed by Division Directors for the subdivisions.
Well, the head of FAMS is dual-hatted as the Assistant Administrator for the Office of Law Enforcement and Director of the Federal Air Marshal Service.
That and all of the AAs and DAAs are not regular Senior Executive Service (SES), they're considered Transportation Security Executive Service (TSES). Just like us TSOs aren't General Schedule but our own unique little pay band system.
Because hey, we're TSA, we do things differently!
Well, the head of FAMS is dual-hatted as the Assistant Administrator for the Office of Law Enforcement and Director of the Federal Air Marshal Service.
That and all of the AAs and DAAs are not regular Senior Executive Service (SES), they're considered Transportation Security Executive Service (TSES). Just like us TSOs aren't General Schedule but our own unique little pay band system.
Because hey, we're TSA, we do things differently!
Is what happened at Denver just because TSA does things differently?
Apr 24, 2015, 3:50 pm
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That and all of the AAs and DAAs are not regular Senior Executive Service (SES), they're considered Transportation Security Executive Service (TSES). Just like us TSOs aren't General Schedule but our own unique little pay band system.
Because hey, we're TSA, we do things differently!
Because hey, we're TSA, we do things differently!
Apr 25, 2015, 9:12 am
#170
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My comment is in regards to TSA being excepted service compared to the competitive service the majority of the government uses, the lack of Title 5 because we're excepted service and our pay band vs pay grade system.
Apr 25, 2015, 5:24 pm
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I have no idea how TSA employee pay scales were establish and to be truthful I don't really care. Airport security screening is not a high skill job and hardly deserves the benefits that other federal employees enjoy.
The creation of TSA was a mistake that needs to be corrected.
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Apr 25, 2015, 5:35 pm
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Apr 26, 2015, 9:34 am
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I did notice that over 50% of the people going through the MMWs had to have secondary patdowns...pretty normal failure rate to what I see at other airports.
I did notice that a female with about 1/2-inch of close-cropped, curly hair had her hair patted down after exiting the scanner. I still don't understand why that is done? A 1/2-inch hair length doesn't allow much opportunity to "conceal" anything in the hair.
And I did see a TSO patting down men coming out of one MMW. From my distance, I could not tell from body features if the TSO was male or female, but my initial impressions were female. Of course that could not possibly be so, cause TSA doesn't allow cross-gender patdowns, right?
And, alas, today's excursion confirms my suspicions that it is not possible to SDOO to WTMDs anymore at DEN...unless you get PreCheck, it's the scanner or the grope. Great non-choices.
Apr 26, 2015, 11:44 am
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Apr 26, 2015, 1:15 pm
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Came through DEN this morning. I must say, it has to have been one of the quietest travels through this checkpoint I've seen in many years. No yelling by TSOs at the pax to remove items, etc. No idle chit-chat by the "magic pen" (sorry, at DEN, it's magic ink stamper) TSOs. Just lines of people moving through the area.
I did notice that over 50% of the people going through the MMWs had to have secondary patdowns...pretty normal failure rate to what I see at other airports.
I did notice that a female with about 1/2-inch of close-cropped, curly hair had her hair patted down after exiting the scanner. I still don't understand why that is done? A 1/2-inch hair length doesn't allow much opportunity to "conceal" anything in the hair.
And I did see a TSO patting down men coming out of one MMW. From my distance, I could not tell from body features if the TSO was male or female, but my initial impressions were female. Of course that could not possibly be so, cause TSA doesn't allow cross-gender patdowns, right?
And, alas, today's excursion confirms my suspicions that it is not possible to SDOO to WTMDs anymore at DEN...unless you get PreCheck, it's the scanner or the grope. Great non-choices.
I did notice that over 50% of the people going through the MMWs had to have secondary patdowns...pretty normal failure rate to what I see at other airports.
I did notice that a female with about 1/2-inch of close-cropped, curly hair had her hair patted down after exiting the scanner. I still don't understand why that is done? A 1/2-inch hair length doesn't allow much opportunity to "conceal" anything in the hair.
And I did see a TSO patting down men coming out of one MMW. From my distance, I could not tell from body features if the TSO was male or female, but my initial impressions were female. Of course that could not possibly be so, cause TSA doesn't allow cross-gender patdowns, right?
And, alas, today's excursion confirms my suspicions that it is not possible to SDOO to WTMDs anymore at DEN...unless you get PreCheck, it's the scanner or the grope. Great non-choices.
Apr 26, 2015, 4:30 pm
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Apr 29, 2015, 1:10 pm
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I've never met LoganTSO, but my interactions with him on FT have me convinced that he's a good guy. He's not in the group that causes us such angst.
Next FT Do in Boston, we'll have to get him drunk and hear some of the good stuff.
Mike
Next FT Do in Boston, we'll have to get him drunk and hear some of the good stuff.
Mike
May 8, 2015, 6:34 am
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From what I can gather, since the LAX shooting, cell phones are tolerated now, one of the issues that came out after the shooting was that because cell phone were not allowed, communication was inhibited.
May 8, 2015, 7:32 am
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By the way, can you explain how what the sexual assault conspirators did to the passengers they abused is any different from what you do when you molest a passenger's genitals?