CBP Romance detectors and relationship wreckers
#31
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Ontario, Canada
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America believes Canada's lax immigration lets in too many foreign terrorists that could go south. Canada believes America's lax gun laws and intolerance create too many heavily-armed domestic terrorists that we really don't want here.
#32
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The governmental pursuit of a treaty for intra-US/Canada mobility rights akin to those under Schengen? That would unleash the paranoid on both sides of the border and prevent it from becoming law. It would be more difficult than NAFTA.
#34
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posts: 50
#35
Join Date: Jan 2009
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I've been sent to CBP secondary three times (US citizen). The agents have access to prior secondary notes about me, but no alert pops up or anything when they swipe my passport. I still just get admitted without questions most of the time.
If we start getting into it over the questioning then yes, they can see the prior notes, but that usually doesn't come up until after they have a new reason to send me back to secondary.
If we start getting into it over the questioning then yes, they can see the prior notes, but that usually doesn't come up until after they have a new reason to send me back to secondary.
#37
Join Date: May 2012
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 506
As a Canadian working in Texas, I go through Ottawa and the CBP
there a lot.
Last time I went through the officer and I had a nice conversation
about restaurants in San Antonio. Turns out that particular officer
also lived in San Antonio and recognized my cap. The process was
painless / pleasant though I was sweating from being overheated.
Keep a documented history of your travels which documents your
returns to Canada and give them that to review. Past history is
often an indicator or future behavior although CBP may toss that
out the window in the case of romantic international relationships.
Also put together documentation on your ties to Canada... tax
returns, business incorporation/registration, bank statements,
mortgage payments, rental payments, whois listing of your
business website, utility payments, references, etc.
When they pull you into secondary have both these paper files
appropriately labelled and let them at it.
there a lot.
Last time I went through the officer and I had a nice conversation
about restaurants in San Antonio. Turns out that particular officer
also lived in San Antonio and recognized my cap. The process was
painless / pleasant though I was sweating from being overheated.
Keep a documented history of your travels which documents your
returns to Canada and give them that to review. Past history is
often an indicator or future behavior although CBP may toss that
out the window in the case of romantic international relationships.
Also put together documentation on your ties to Canada... tax
returns, business incorporation/registration, bank statements,
mortgage payments, rental payments, whois listing of your
business website, utility payments, references, etc.
When they pull you into secondary have both these paper files
appropriately labelled and let them at it.
#38
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posts: 50
Also put together documentation on your ties to Canada... tax
returns, business incorporation/registration, bank statements,
mortgage payments, rental payments, whois listing of your
business website, utility payments, references, etc.
When they pull you into secondary have both these paper files
appropriately labelled and let them at it.
returns, business incorporation/registration, bank statements,
mortgage payments, rental payments, whois listing of your
business website, utility payments, references, etc.
When they pull you into secondary have both these paper files
appropriately labelled and let them at it.
#39
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 283
I don't mean to be rude, but do you really want to travel with all this documentation? Somebody could see that you have sensitive data and decide to steal your bag?
Why don't you simply contact an attorney and have him draw up papers confirming your residence, then have the papers notarized. This prevents somebody from having a look at your personal papers and/or having them fall into the wrong hands.
CK
Why don't you simply contact an attorney and have him draw up papers confirming your residence, then have the papers notarized. This prevents somebody from having a look at your personal papers and/or having them fall into the wrong hands.
CK
#40
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 79
Almost all airports do not take kindly to international relationships and frequent visits, even if you have the funds and address of who will look after you.
Which I think sucks, since some of my friends went through hell at times when they visit their girlfriends/wives in their home countries.
It is not like they can apply for benefits without first living a few years in the country and paying taxes for them, so can someone enlighten me if this is just paranoia or are border agents just jealous or territorial when a foreigner courts one of their people?
Which I think sucks, since some of my friends went through hell at times when they visit their girlfriends/wives in their home countries.
It is not like they can apply for benefits without first living a few years in the country and paying taxes for them, so can someone enlighten me if this is just paranoia or are border agents just jealous or territorial when a foreigner courts one of their people?
#41
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 38,410
I don't mean to be rude, but do you really want to travel with all this documentation? Somebody could see that you have sensitive data and decide to steal your bag?
Why don't you simply contact an attorney and have him draw up papers confirming your residence, then have the papers notarized. This prevents somebody from having a look at your personal papers and/or having them fall into the wrong hands.
CK
Why don't you simply contact an attorney and have him draw up papers confirming your residence, then have the papers notarized. This prevents somebody from having a look at your personal papers and/or having them fall into the wrong hands.
CK
#42
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: California. USA
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#43
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 471
Sorry for the rant, but when I read stories like this and see our government ordering CBP not to enforce laws at the southern border it truly makes me wonder who is running this country and what their intentions are.
#44
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Yes, the US Government hates people who come here legally, especially if they're educated and have their own wealth. If you were an illiterate grade school drop out who sneaked across the border 20 times already you would be welcomed with open arms.
Sorry for the rant, but when I read stories like this and see our government ordering CBP not to enforce laws at the southern border it truly makes me wonder who is running this country and what their intentions are.
Sorry for the rant, but when I read stories like this and see our government ordering CBP not to enforce laws at the southern border it truly makes me wonder who is running this country and what their intentions are.
The thinking seems to be that if we leave the airports of entry as a welcome mat into the country then the risky surface crossings would become less risky and much of that unlawful traffic and more would just fly instead.
#45
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 596
if the relationship progresses, get married. Either he sponsors you to the US (you get a green card) or you sponsor him to Canada (he gets PR Card).
That way you'd both be eligible to avoid lengthy questioning by immigration at both sides.
But this all depends on the 'future' of your relations.
That way you'd both be eligible to avoid lengthy questioning by immigration at both sides.
But this all depends on the 'future' of your relations.