TSA hassel / pulled out of line / false accusations
Apr 3, 2015, 9:32 am
#16
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Probably not smart on my part
Apr 3, 2015, 10:12 am
#17
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Once you lose the "high ground" it's virtually impossible to regain it no matter how right you are. Sometimes a hard lesson to learn.
Apr 3, 2015, 1:19 pm
#18
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The gate TSA lady sees the commission, and comes over and asks the women what's going on. The women tell the TSA that I "pushed" them out of the way, cut them in line, cursed at them, and threatened them.
No, you didn't do any of that, but you refused to bow down to their
false-propped authority, a serious crime in today's paranoid post-9/11
milieu. Next time please post their names; after all those badges are their for a reason and it makes justice easier to achieve when the guillotines arrive.
No, you didn't do any of that, but you refused to bow down to their
false-propped authority, a serious crime in today's paranoid post-9/11
milieu. Next time please post their names; after all those badges are their for a reason and it makes justice easier to achieve when the guillotines arrive.
Last edited by yandosan; Apr 3, 2015 at 4:43 pm
Apr 3, 2015, 6:49 pm
#19
Join Date: Mar 2011
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The problem is this would have likely escalated no matter what. For someone to approach a complete strange and start berating them for having the nerve to walk by them in a public place is a sign that something is not right up stairs. Odds are that if he had ignored them the "accusations" would have gotten worse. Firing a shot across her bow probably caught her off guard. The only positive is that some power tripping airport cop didn't show up, or things could have gotten much worse.
Apr 3, 2015, 7:29 pm
#20
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There's no "right" course of action here, unfortunately. I suspect that even if you'd just ignored her, she would have stood there rambling on about the horrible jerk in front of her who just HAD to get by, or whatever, until she succeeded into goading you into confrontation, annoyed someone in the vicinity enough that they started a confrontation (by telling her to shut up, probably), or you mercifully made it through the line and could get away.
Well, that said, maybe the right course of action would have been to save it till you got through security, and then invite her to perform an anatomical impossibility. I doubt the TSA would have cared at that point.
Well, that said, maybe the right course of action would have been to save it till you got through security, and then invite her to perform an anatomical impossibility. I doubt the TSA would have cared at that point.
Apr 3, 2015, 7:37 pm
#21
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Probably not smart on my part, but that really set them off. Then the older huge woman gets in my face. Like literally nose to nose yelling at me to watch my tongue.
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The TSA supervisor (who looked to be 2 days out of high school) comes over, get an earful from the gate TSA person about what I am guilty of, and then he gets all tough with me standing right up against me with my back to the wall.
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Finally, after getting an earful from him, he lets me go. But I had to go thru a private line just for me because "those women feel in fear of their lives".
Probably not smart on my part, but that really set them off. Then the older huge woman gets in my face. Like literally nose to nose yelling at me to watch my tongue.
*more deleted*
The TSA supervisor (who looked to be 2 days out of high school) comes over, get an earful from the gate TSA person about what I am guilty of, and then he gets all tough with me standing right up against me with my back to the wall.
*still more deleted*
Finally, after getting an earful from him, he lets me go. But I had to go thru a private line just for me because "those women feel in fear of their lives".
Never mind any training the TSA gets, let alone training supervisors get, this fails basic tests of common sense. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
Apr 3, 2015, 7:45 pm
#22
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, minding my own business I get near the security area in a hallway that was very wide, probably 20' across. Two women, one in her 20s and a fat 300 pounder in her 50s, were on the floor on all fours with a suitcase open rummaging through it looking for something
Actually you jumped in front of them, and gave the fat 300 pound one the evil eye..
Great attitude, if you only had 20 inches to pass them, you sure put the squeeze on the fat one...
Not a positive approach...
How you think ,is everything...count yourself lucky..are you fresh out of school..a real woman would slap you silly...and teach you some manners..
Actually you jumped in front of them, and gave the fat 300 pound one the evil eye..
Great attitude, if you only had 20 inches to pass them, you sure put the squeeze on the fat one...
Not a positive approach...
How you think ,is everything...count yourself lucky..are you fresh out of school..a real woman would slap you silly...and teach you some manners..
Apr 3, 2015, 10:37 pm
#23
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, minding my own business I get near the security area in a hallway that was very wide, probably 20' across. Two women, one in her 20s and a fat 300 pounder in her 50s, were on the floor on all fours with a suitcase open rummaging through it looking for something
Actually you jumped in front of them, and gave the fat 300 pound one the evil eye..
Great attitude, if you only had 20 inches to pass them, you sure put the squeeze on the fat one...
Not a positive approach...
How you think ,is everything...count yourself lucky..are you fresh out of school..a real woman would slap you silly...and teach you some manners..
Actually you jumped in front of them, and gave the fat 300 pound one the evil eye..
Great attitude, if you only had 20 inches to pass them, you sure put the squeeze on the fat one...
Not a positive approach...
How you think ,is everything...count yourself lucky..are you fresh out of school..a real woman would slap you silly...and teach you some manners..
20 feet.
Apr 3, 2015, 10:42 pm
#24
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Well, depends on how much time you had....
But Id have escalated. Ive done so at LAX in other circumstances.
Demand they call law enforcement OR they can screen you. Period.
First TSA chick was wrong. In retrospect there is plenty you could have done, but I prollyw wouldnt have done much different until the TSA chick started abusing me. Then again I am a white business man.
"If you have observed me doing something wrong, lets get an LEO over here - otherwise Im going to ask they you proceed with screening."
When I did get into a confrontation I had 3 hrs to spare. Didnt need it.
But Id have escalated. Ive done so at LAX in other circumstances.
Demand they call law enforcement OR they can screen you. Period.
First TSA chick was wrong. In retrospect there is plenty you could have done, but I prollyw wouldnt have done much different until the TSA chick started abusing me. Then again I am a white business man.
"If you have observed me doing something wrong, lets get an LEO over here - otherwise Im going to ask they you proceed with screening."
When I did get into a confrontation I had 3 hrs to spare. Didnt need it.
Apr 4, 2015, 1:30 pm
#25
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, minding my own business I get near the security area in a hallway that was very wide, probably 20' across. Two women, one in her 20s and a fat 300 pounder in her 50s, were on the floor on all fours with a suitcase open rummaging through it looking for something
Actually you jumped in front of them, and gave the fat 300 pound one the evil eye..
Great attitude, if you only had 20 inches to pass them, you sure put the squeeze on the fat one...
Not a positive approach...
How you think ,is everything...count yourself lucky..are you fresh out of school..a real woman would slap you silly...and teach you some manners..
Actually you jumped in front of them, and gave the fat 300 pound one the evil eye..
Great attitude, if you only had 20 inches to pass them, you sure put the squeeze on the fat one...
Not a positive approach...
How you think ,is everything...count yourself lucky..are you fresh out of school..a real woman would slap you silly...and teach you some manners..
They should not have opened suitcases like that. They should have gone to the side much more. They were rude.
Apr 7, 2015, 7:53 pm
#29
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Was it nice to call the lady a fat tub? No. Was it right for them to be blocking the way? No. Was it right for them to lie about the OP getting physical with them? Definite no.
If someone is blocking my way in a manner that has nothing to do with the task at hand (going through security), I'm going to go around them. I'll probably ask first, but I'm not going to sit around and wait for them to be done.
If someone is blocking my way in a manner that has nothing to do with the task at hand (going through security), I'm going to go around them. I'll probably ask first, but I'm not going to sit around and wait for them to be done.
