Passengers Departing the US Searched for Drugs / Undeclared Money on Jet Bridge
Mar 14, 2015, 10:14 am
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Yes, because carrying cash is such a threat to national security. I'm sorry, but your willingness to be subjugated on the whim of any low paid, uneducated thug from CBP does not apply to the rest of us. These people are nothing more than criminals with a badge and are rightly deserving of scorn and disdain.
Mar 14, 2015, 11:00 am
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The governmental obsession about cash export was built to play in and into the national security debate -- the language of "drug money", "terrorist financing", "tax evasion" funding the drug or terrorism trades, and that sort of stuff is what the CBP uses to justify these fishing expeditions.
Mar 14, 2015, 11:08 am
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I'll have to ask my diamond-dealing family friends, but I don't recall there being a US export declaration generally required for diamond exports from the US. Diamond import regulations are, unlike with US cross-border cash movements, quite well removed from export regulations.
Mar 14, 2015, 11:11 am
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Yes, because carrying cash is such a threat to national security. I'm sorry, but your willingness to be subjugated on the whim of any low paid, uneducated thug from CBP does not apply to the rest of us. These people are nothing more than criminals with a badge and are rightly deserving of scorn and disdain.
Mar 14, 2015, 11:17 am
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The government.
Yes, including the government. FinCEN even publicly has stated that they do what they do to "safeguard the financial system from illicit use, combat money laundering and promote national security". FinCEN 105 is the declaration form.
Originally Posted by seawolf
Can someone actually tied the original reasons for currency transaction reporting legislation to "national security?"
Mar 14, 2015, 2:24 pm
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Mar 14, 2015, 2:44 pm
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Mar 14, 2015, 2:48 pm
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The history of what led to and was discussed during the pushing of bills to make the ironically-named Bank Secrecy Act into law is not a secret.
Mar 14, 2015, 5:24 pm
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Mar 14, 2015, 9:24 pm
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Agreed, although that doesn't mean I had access to the history of that legislation when I speculated that money laundering and tax evasion were more likely reasons for the passage of this bill than terrorism. That speculation was based on what seemed more likely significant considerations than terrorism at that time.
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Mar 15, 2015, 12:38 am
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Agreed, although that doesn't mean I had access to the history of that legislation when I speculated that money laundering and tax evasion were more likely reasons for the passage of this bill than terrorism. That speculation was based on what seemed more likely significant considerations than terrorism at that time.
Before FinCEN, and still, there is the Office of Foreign Assets Control. Before that the Division of Foreign Funds Control and before that the Office of International Finance. This US history goes in large part to show that the US has been engaged in currency and other asset export control measures using the national security paradigm since at least the era of the Woodrow Wilson Administration.
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Mar 15, 2015, 9:38 am
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Transnational organized crime.
Before FinCEN, and still, there is the Office of Foreign Assets Control. Before that the Division of Foreign Funds Control and before that the Office of International Finance. This US history goes in large part to show that the US has been engaged in currency and other asset export control measures using the national security paradigm since at least the era of the Woodrow Wilson Administration.
Before FinCEN, and still, there is the Office of Foreign Assets Control. Before that the Division of Foreign Funds Control and before that the Office of International Finance. This US history goes in large part to show that the US has been engaged in currency and other asset export control measures using the national security paradigm since at least the era of the Woodrow Wilson Administration.