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Old Oct 15, 2014, 9:13 pm
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Ex-pilot wore uniform to cut security line at HNL

http://khon2.com/2014/10/10/ex-pilot...y-line-at-hnl/
From the article: Joshu Osmanski, 39, a member of the U.S. Navy Reserve, pleaded guilty Friday in federal court to unlawfully entering the secure area of an airport. He said he wore the Cathay Pacific uniform and badge months after he was terminated from his job “so that I could cut the line and keep my shoes on while going through Honolulu airport security.” Osmanski faces a maximum of 10 years in prison when he’s sentenced in February. He also faces a maximum fine of $250,000
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Old Oct 26, 2014, 2:00 pm
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Ask before you assume....

Yes, airport security is a very serious matter. So, why do you think a licensed pilot would risk that? No one has asked the most important question....WHY?? This honorable veteran was injured while serving and protecting his country in the military and Cathay Pacific fired him because he was on military orders! This foreign company, bound to follow US law because they hire US citizens, blatantly violate USERRA, The Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act of 1994. Because Cathay broke the law, perhaps he still had a right to wear that uniform. Instead of blindly taking everything the media states to be true, why don't you find out why this man would go to such great lengths to be heard?? Cathay Pacific spit in the face of every man and woman who serves in the US Military. The media, and now each one of you who make misguided comments, is allowing Cathay Pacific to disrespect these great men and women. He had a purchased ticket. He had a valid drivers license. He was screened just like those who go through TSA pre-check.
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Old Oct 26, 2014, 4:27 pm
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It is TSA who spits in the face of every human who passes through their "security" fiefdoms. No one should be forced into any screening other than the Precheck experience, without clear, articulable probable cause. No one should ever have to show a government employee a boarding pass or an ID. Liquids should not be limited and similar junk science should be expelled from our airports.

10 years and a $250,000 fine. Only a scumbag would have written or advocated that penalty into law as a penalty for this "transgression".

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Old Oct 26, 2014, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Truthbetold
Yes, airport security is a very serious matter. So, why do you think a licensed pilot would risk that? No one has asked the most important question....WHY?? This honorable veteran was injured while serving and protecting his country in the military and Cathay Pacific fired him because he was on military orders! This foreign company, bound to follow US law because they hire US citizens, blatantly violate USERRA, The Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act of 1994. Because Cathay broke the law, perhaps he still had a right to wear that uniform. Instead of blindly taking everything the media states to be true, why don't you find out why this man would go to such great lengths to be heard?? Cathay Pacific spit in the face of every man and woman who serves in the US Military. The media, and now each one of you who make misguided comments, is allowing Cathay Pacific to disrespect these great men and women. He had a purchased ticket. He had a valid drivers license. He was screened just like those who go through TSA pre-check.
Hey Joshu! I agree that 10 years is a bit excessive.
Hope they slap you with a hell of a fine, though.
We need the money!
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Old Oct 27, 2014, 7:19 am
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You don't get it!

How blind are you responders? Why would a licensed pilot risk his career, a large fine even jail time not to mention a felony???
Could he have been in protest of the actions of Cathay Pacific who broke United States law by terminating him because he was serving in the US Navy??

He was injured while protecting our country in a aged fighter jet that was broken. If he had not ejected he would have died. So what does his employer do? They fire him because he was serving our country. What part of that doesn't make you angry?? If it doesn't then there is something very wrong with this country!
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Old Oct 27, 2014, 11:32 am
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The bigger crime is that TSA made his checkpoint visit into a crime.

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Old Oct 27, 2014, 6:55 pm
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This thread wins the award for most complete lack of meaningful interaction.
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Old Oct 27, 2014, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Truthbetold
Yes, airport security is a very serious matter. So, why do you think a licensed pilot would risk that? No one has asked the most important question....WHY?? This honorable veteran was injured while serving and protecting his country in the military and Cathay Pacific fired him because he was on military orders! This foreign company, bound to follow US law because they hire US citizens, blatantly violate USERRA, The Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act of 1994. Because Cathay broke the law, perhaps he still had a right to wear that uniform. Instead of blindly taking everything the media states to be true, why don't you find out why this man would go to such great lengths to be heard?? Cathay Pacific spit in the face of every man and woman who serves in the US Military. The media, and now each one of you who make misguided comments, is allowing Cathay Pacific to disrespect these great men and women. He had a purchased ticket. He had a valid drivers license. He was screened just like those who go through TSA pre-check.

How does bypassing certain aspects of airport security benefit him regarding any (possibly legitimate) complaint he may have against CP?
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 7:18 am
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I can't speak for him; but because Cathay Pacific's general manager stated that they fired him because he was on military orders, which is against the law, then you would have to believe that the termination was illegal. He may have felt he had the right to wear the uniform.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 4:28 am
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That's a big assumption.

Even if the whole story is true, that's still no excuse to cut the line.

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Old Nov 3, 2014, 1:12 pm
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Even with the real truth presented to the general public, they will still believe what ever the media present to them as 'being the truth'. The media have all the proof they need to back this "story" but to date has chosen not to use it, which is very sad since it's misrepresenting the true aspects of the case.

He took a stand against being treated like just another foreign employee by a big international company. They admitted, black on white, to terminating mr Osmanski's services due to his military duties - violating USERRA in the process. He had to go to extremes in order to get this out in the open. Is there any of you responders who would do that when you're being terminated because you defended your country against real terrorists and felons? Not to mention injuring yourself in the process.
Of course a person will need time off to recover. To get terminated upon return to a civilian job due to military duties is illegal and Cathay should be held accountable for it, especially now that they have admitted to doing this.

See it for what it is, he had guts to take a risk in order to make CP's illegal actions against a US military officer known. That is what this is about, not cutting a line at an airport or trying to bypass the security checkpoint.
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Old Nov 3, 2014, 1:58 pm
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Ex-pilot wore uniform to cut security line at HNL

Is CX bound by US labour law if he was hired out of HK?

And according to Washington Times, it doesn't seem like he was protesting anything as he was going to train for Alaska Air.
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Old Nov 4, 2014, 1:03 am
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USERRA applies to foreign employers doing business in the US as well as US employers. In answer to your question yes, USERRA apply to CX too.

It was mentioned before and I agree, don't believe everything the media presents as the truth, its not.

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Old Jan 5, 2015, 7:56 am
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To bad the good stuff doesn't make headlines!

http://aviation-business-gazette.com...idence-RI.html
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