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U.S. officials announced plans for greater screening of passengers arriving from W Africa for Ebola on 11 October. On 22 October, more intense monitoring of such travelers was announced.
U.S. to Monitor Visitors from 3 West African Nations for 21 Days
U.S. to Monitor Visitors from 3 West African Nations for 21 Days
New monitoring rules were put into place Wednesday for travelers from West African countries with Ebola outbreaks entering the United States.
Starting next Monday, such travelers will be required to report their body temperatures for three weeks on a daily basis in addition to any potential symptoms of the deadly virus....
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Starting next Monday, such travelers will be required to report their body temperatures for three weeks on a daily basis in addition to any potential symptoms of the deadly virus....
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U.S. to Screen for Ebola at 5 Airports
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Probably not - but there seems to be a knee-jerk tendency in certain countries- I mean come on - after 9/11 and setting up the TSA - that was definite knee-jerk IMHO
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So anyone will have gone through at least 2 security checks, spent 15 hours or more on flights then just as they arrive in the US they start showing symptoms becoming infectious.
In other news UK joins headless chickens
In other news UK joins headless chickens
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Agree whole heartedly. Much of airport security is designed to make people feel safe more than actually preventing issues.
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But it gives people a false sense of security. Let's say someone is tested and passes. Then several days later starts sweating, coughing etc - how likely is it they'll think "I have a cold" rather than Ebola?
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h joy -- more of our tax dollars at waste. Other than allowing some politicians to shout that they've done something I can not see how this will do anything other than inconvenience quite a few people.
I'm sure that in the next few days the folks at Cabal News Network will have all sorts BREAKING NEWS talking heads and live pictures of people having their temperatures taken. Thank gdness I dumped cable...
I'm sure that in the next few days the folks at Cabal News Network will have all sorts BREAKING NEWS talking heads and live pictures of people having their temperatures taken. Thank gdness I dumped cable...
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However: I think once ebola symptoms hit full on, you don't think you 'have a cold'.
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Has SA suspended their flight from IAD-JNB that stops in Dakar? I am on SA208 next year on April 5 for a vacation in South Africa and I have not received any word that my flight is cancelled.
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In any case, I don't think any suspension decisions have been made as far in advance as April 2015. While it is always wise to monitor your flight status as airlines change their schedules for any number of reasons, there is no reason to worry at this time about Ebola-related suspensions on flights to Dakar.
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Except that it would be a disaster, further plunging the region into economic and potential political instability - things certain to backfire on those imposing such a harsh -- and illegal -- action.
Article 13, Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his (soc) own, and to return to his (sic) country."
Article 12, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: "Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his (sic) own."
Article 13, Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his (soc) own, and to return to his (sic) country."
Article 12, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: "Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his (sic) own."
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But everyone does not have a right to come to this country, the US. If ebola exposed and infected people want to leave their countries looking for treatment they can go somewhere else. I find it interesting that most of the other countries in African continent have a travel ban on allowing people from the 3 infected countries in yet the US won't put such a temporary ban in place.
Also, my understanding is that once symptoms are present, its very fast and intense. One would not be able to get on a plane once symptoms are present so it would not be possible to take a flight to NA for treatment. For more information, see the WHO or CDC website.
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That's exactly what Duncan did. He knew he was exposed to ebola when he carried the pregnant sick girl into the car. He quit his job, bought a ticket to the US, and he lied about his exposure on the forms at the Monrovia airport and was able to board the flight. He did get sick here as he suspected he would and got free treatment courtesy of US taxpayers. It's being called ebola tourism.
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That's exactly what Duncan did. He knew he was exposed to ebola when he carried the pregnant sick girl into the car. He quit his job, bought a ticket to the US, and he lied about his exposure on the forms at the Monrovia airport and was able to board the flight. He did get sick here as he suspected he would and got free treatment courtesy of US taxpayers. It's being called ebola tourism.
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But everyone does not have a right to come to this country, the US. If ebola exposed and infected people want to leave their countries looking for treatment they can go somewhere else. I find it interesting that most of the other countries in African continent have a travel ban on allowing people from the 3 infected countries in yet the US won't put such a temporary ban in place.
1. Travel to other countries on the African continent is much cheaper than it is to the US. Since the price barrier is lower, more people can make these trips, increasing the likelihood that an infected person will arrive in their country.
2. Visa hurdles are much lower as well, again increasing the likelihood that an infected person will arrive in their country.
3. General medical and hygiene infrastructure in Africa is much lower than the US, making it harder to manage an outbreak should one arise.
4. African health systems are already stretched to the limit fighting Malaria, HIV, Dengue, trypsanomiasis, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Why add one more problem to their plate?
So, African countries are at greater risk of an outbreak and less able to contain it.
On the other hand, the US does have the capability of managing this risk. Not only do we not ban people from the US from Ebola-affected countries, we don't ban people from Cholera-affected countries, from Yellow Fever- affected countries, from Malaria-affected countries, and the list goes on. All of these diseases kill more people each year than Ebola. Where would you propose we draw the line?
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From the CDC:
Number of annual deaths for each disease
Heart disease: 596,577
Cancer: 576,691
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,932
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 126,438
Alzheimer's disease: 84,974
Diabetes: 73,831
Number of Ebola deaths: 1
Its good to see people's priorities are in the right places.....
Number of annual deaths for each disease
Heart disease: 596,577
Cancer: 576,691
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,932
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 126,438
Alzheimer's disease: 84,974
Diabetes: 73,831
Number of Ebola deaths: 1
Its good to see people's priorities are in the right places.....
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Catching it - obviously not going to happen. Ignoring their own significant risk factors for heart disease while panicking about their infinitesimal risk from Ebola - it is already happening.