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Old Jun 16, 2014, 8:18 pm
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$2000 in one dollar bills
Going to a "gentlemen's club" in LAS?
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by relangford
Going to a "gentlemen's club" in LAS?
I don't think tipping with just $1 would get you very far in most of the gcs in LAS anymore.
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 12:27 am
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I don't think tipping with just $1 would get you very far in most of the gcs in LAS anymore.
As the saying goes, It doesn't matter how much you tip: they're still taking it all off, and they're still not going to go home with you.

Though it would be lots of fun watching TSA count $2,000 in $1 bills. Then THEY would have to remove their shoes and socks to get at least up to twenty!
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 12:02 pm
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The thing is, even if it looks suspicious on the xray, it would be pretty easy to riffle through a monster wad of cash ($2K in $1 bills) to determine that there are no razor blades or water bottles concealed inside.

But IMHO there is absolutely no legitimate reason for a TSO to ask a pax on a domestic flight how much money is there or, worse, why the pax wants to carry 2000 $1 bills.

I suppose they might go all BDO and ask how much, then count it to make sure that there are no undeclared $100 bills 'artfully concealed' in the bundle.
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 1:20 pm
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Flying domestic there is no need to declare cash. As such TSA shouldn't give a toss what you are carrying. However they may do, and if so - politely tell them that they have no right to do so or call a supervisor over. Also, to save the potential headache it is a good idea to split the cash up. Some in the laptop bag, some in your wallet, some in the pocket of the jacket, some in the carry-on etc.
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 1:30 pm
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Flying domestic there is no need to declare cash. As such TSA shouldn't give a toss what you are carrying. However they may do, and if so - politely tell them that they have no right to do so or call a supervisor over. Also, to save the potential headache it is a good idea to split the cash up. Some in the laptop bag, some in your wallet, some in the pocket of the jacket, some in the carry-on etc.
That's like babysitting five undisciplined kids at the same time. How do you keep control of all of them so they don't do something naughty? I think I'd rather keep my cash all in one place and my eye on that wad of cash at all times.
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by FredAnderssen
As the saying goes, It doesn't matter how much you tip: they're still taking it all off, and they're still not going to go home with you.

Though it would be lots of fun watching TSA count $2,000 in $1 bills. Then THEY would have to remove their shoes and socks to get at least up to twenty!
Have any of their agents been trained to count this high?
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by chollie
But IMHO there is absolutely no legitimate reason for a TSO to ask a pax on a domestic flight how much money is there or, worse, why the pax wants to carry 2000 $1 bills.

I suppose they might go all BDO and ask how much, then count it to make sure that there are no undeclared $100 bills 'artfully concealed' in the bundle.
There is no legitmate reason for TSA to ask and questions about money, ever. Their only mandate is to ensure no WEI make it on to a plane. The can (as you mentioned) riffle through or X-ray the money to make sure no weapons are concealed in it.

They cannot count the money or ask you any questions about it. They can't detain you until you answer the questions.

The most they can do is suspect there is a crime and call the FBI/CBP, but even then, they cannot detain you until law enforcement arrives.
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This is a common problem for gamblers.

Unfortunately, the TSA can alert the DEA. While unlikely, it can still happen. IIRC, the TSA in San Juan alerted the DEA in Atlanta with regard to seeing an excessive amount of cash on this couple during security screening in San Juan.

On Aug. 8, 2006, respondents Gina Fiore and Keith Gipson, professional gamblers who were changing planes in Atlanta on their way from a gambling excursion in San Juan, Puerto Rico, to Las Vegas, were carrying $97,000 in cash and were questioned by DEA agents. They said the money was from lawful gambling winnings, but after a narcotics-detecting dog alerted to the presence of contraband, Walden seized the cash, according to court documents.

Respondents were allowed to board their flight to Las Vegas and were not arrested, and the government returned the money six months after the seizure.
One LINK, but there are quite a few more, with regard to this case.

One's biggest fear when traveling with large sums of money; is being identified (incorrectly) as one who is involved in the illicit drug business.
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Old Jun 20, 2014, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by janetdoe
There is no legitmate reason for TSA to ask and questions about money, ever. Their only mandate is to ensure no WEI make it on to a plane. The can (as you mentioned) riffle through or X-ray the money to make sure no weapons are concealed in it.

They cannot count the money or ask you any questions about it. They can't detain you until you answer the questions.

The most they can do is suspect there is a crime and call the FBI/CBP, but even then, they cannot detain you until law enforcement arrives.
They most certainly can leaf through the bills, one by one, taking their time, using the excuse that you may have hidden contraband like a razor between the bills.

They "can't" detain you, except, as Ron Paul found out, good luck if you try to go before they say you can. A sitting US Senator found that he was detained and there was absolutely nothing he, with all his connections, could do about it.
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Old Jun 20, 2014, 11:26 am
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If you aren't a fan of credit cards (and debit cards/bank accounts), perhaps for times like this it would be good to get a few prepaid visa cards and travel with them instead? Then, nobody would know how much "money" you had on you, even if they saw them.
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Old Jun 21, 2014, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by bchandler02
If you aren't a fan of credit cards (and debit cards/bank accounts), perhaps for times like this it would be good to get a few prepaid visa cards and travel with them instead? Then, nobody would know how much "money" you had on you, even if they saw them.
Or perhaps the TSOs could stop trying to make up laws and act outside their mission.

It is not illegal to travel domestically with unlimited sums of cash. It is not illegal to travel internationally with cash over $10K, as long as it is declared. That declaration is made to CBP, not TSA.

TSA's responsibility is aircraft safety. Large bundles of cash, even if one is boarding an international flight, are not a threat to aviation safety.
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Old Jun 21, 2014, 9:35 am
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Or perhaps the TSOs could stop trying to make up laws and act outside their mission.

It is not illegal to travel domestically with unlimited sums of cash. It is not illegal to travel internationally with cash over $10K, as long as it is declared. That declaration is made to CBP, not TSA.

TSA's responsibility is aircraft safety. Large bundles of cash, even if one is boarding an international flight, are not a threat to aviation safety.
I still think their real mission is bypassing the 4th in the drug war.
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Old Jun 21, 2014, 10:01 am
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We posted this many years ago, and it still stands today.

If we have a concern, will contact law enforcement and/or the National Bulk Cash Smuggling Center for further investigation.
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Old Jun 21, 2014, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by TSAPressSec
We posted this many years ago, and it still stands today.

If we have a concern, will contact law enforcement and/or the National Bulk Cash Smuggling Center for further investigation.
Exactly, and it is why the challenges continue today.

Per your link: 'concern' includes "whether a passenger appears to be cooperative and forthcoming in responding."

Meaning a TSO can demand to know how much money, where it came from, what the purpose is, why the pax chooses to carry that much cash, etc. Nothing has changed in TSA's OP since Bierfeldt, where his lack of cooperation was used to justify a punitive reaction.

It was internal knowledge of TSA's SOP regarding the carrying of cash that was behind BUF BDO Minetta Walter's actions - knowledge that we pax don't have and that you aren't at liberty to fully disclose here. She knew the drug dealers (traveling domestically) would be challenged based solely on the fact that they routinely traveled with large amounts of cash so she helped them bypass the checkpoint to avoid that challenge.
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