TSA invading Boston subway system
Jun 1, 2014, 1:47 am
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It's like locking your front door but leaving a bunch of windows open around the house. It's effective at keeping your neighbors out but doesn't do much against the local thief who's casing your place.
Jun 1, 2014, 1:24 pm
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Do you also welcome the idea of more security in our places of business? Should cops be able to set up checkpoints at the entrances to private office buildings and search everyone entering or leaving?
At what point does the desire for "more security" in your every day life end and your desire for your Constitutionally protected rights and freedoms begin? How much power to intrude on your life do you wish to cede to the government our of fear?
Jun 1, 2014, 3:35 pm
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I welcome the idea of more security in our mass transit systems.
Kinda silly to leave so many gaping holes in this process, but some security is better than none.
I'd like to think as much time is being devoted to monitoring tracks, maintenance sheds and the train crew as is devoted to pax. I'm far more concerned about someone causing harm by tampering with tracks or the train itself or taking over the controls of the train. As far as loss of life, I'm much more concerned about someone taking over or otherwise derailing a cargo train with a dangerous cargo than a commuter train.
Originally Posted by OverThereTooMuch
I welcome the idea of more security in our mass transit systems.
Kinda silly to leave so many gaping holes in this process, but some security is better than none.
I'd like to think as much time is being devoted to monitoring tracks, maintenance sheds and the train crew as is devoted to pax. I'm far more concerned about someone causing harm by tampering with tracks or the train itself or taking over the controls of the train. As far as loss of life, I'm much more concerned about someone taking over or otherwise derailing a cargo train with a dangerous cargo than a commuter train.
Jun 1, 2014, 4:51 pm
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Protect from what? How is a fake cop on a train going to keep the rails from being tampered with? Protect the signal system from being tampered with? Protect the grade crossings? Those are the real threats to public transit.
Jun 1, 2014, 8:49 pm
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The more the government violates the rights of the average working stiff, the more likely the average working stiff will start to push back by contacting their elected officials and garnering media attention. Cause enough outcry, and eventually this nonsense will be abandoned by those who foisted it upon us in the first place.
Jun 1, 2014, 8:56 pm
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Jun 1, 2014, 10:42 pm
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Jun 2, 2014, 1:30 pm
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I hope it does, too.
The more the government violates the rights of the average working stiff, the more likely the average working stiff will start to push back by contacting their elected officials and garnering media attention. Cause enough outcry, and eventually this nonsense will be abandoned by those who foisted it upon us in the first place.
The more the government violates the rights of the average working stiff, the more likely the average working stiff will start to push back by contacting their elected officials and garnering media attention. Cause enough outcry, and eventually this nonsense will be abandoned by those who foisted it upon us in the first place.
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Jun 2, 2014, 2:17 pm
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Agree. The most anyone is going to do is grumble. The legislators at all levels are largely exempt from this cr*p, and as we saw all too clearly with Rand Paul or Chaffetz (? - the one whose underage daughter was taken to a back room), all they really want is attention and private assurances that it won't happen to them again.
Somewhat OT: on another thread in this forum, someone noted that Congress folks are eligible to use Pre. Really? I wasn't aware that you had to undergo a background check to serve in Congress.
Somewhat OT: on another thread in this forum, someone noted that Congress folks are eligible to use Pre. Really? I wasn't aware that you had to undergo a background check to serve in Congress.
Jun 2, 2014, 2:52 pm
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I hope it does, too.
The more the government violates the rights of the average working stiff, the more likely the average working stiff will start to push back by contacting their elected officials and garnering media attention. Cause enough outcry, and eventually this nonsense will be abandoned by those who foisted it upon us in the first place.
Originally Posted by WillCAD View Post
I hope it does, too.
The more the government violates the rights of the average working stiff, the more likely the average working stiff will start to push back by contacting their elected officials and garnering media attention. Cause enough outcry, and eventually this nonsense will be abandoned by those who foisted it upon us in the first place.
Jun 2, 2014, 4:14 pm
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If government started forcing people go through scans to get on the T or Amtrak, the bus or any other form of public transport, I think the average working stiff would scream blue bloody murder. But until that happens, it's going to be a long haul to get things changed.
Jun 2, 2014, 4:51 pm
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If government started forcing people go through scans to get on the T or Amtrak, the bus or any other form of public transport, I think the average working stiff would scream blue bloody murder. But until that happens, it's going to be a long haul to get things changed.
You underestimate what Americans will put up with in the name of "security."
Jun 2, 2014, 5:38 pm
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Ahhhhh, so that explains the empty ballparks nationwide as MLB, in bed with DHS, is rolling out metal detectors at all 30 stadiums. All those fans who have had enough of being treated as prisoners merely to attend a ballgame.
You underestimate what Americans will put up with in the name of "security."
You underestimate what Americans will put up with in the name of "security."
Jun 2, 2014, 6:45 pm
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Along the same lines, I was appalled to read that all guests to my alma mater's commencement will be screened. Ah, you must be thinking, there's some high profile speaker. Yeah: the CEO of DuPont.
I wonder if DHS has lent its expertise to college commencements as well.
Our nation has gone insane.