Frozen liquid is still a liquid?
#18
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Heck, people should be banned - the human body is 70% water. There, problem solved - no one shall be allowed to fly and TSA can go away. How simple was that?
#19
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Just about everything has a liquid state and a solid state. The name that intelligent people use for these two states are liquid and solid. Freezing is a method of getting from one state (liquid) to another (solid). Frozen results, therefore, in the state you achieve after something has been frozen by freezing. For those in blue shirts that got lost after the first question, this is a SOLID@:-)@:-)@:-)
I'm surprised that TSA hasn't claimed the metal case around my laptop is a frozen solid. After all, the metal was a liquid and one point. Now it's frozen. It must be a frozen liquid.
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Last week DFW TSA informed me I could not bring frozen breastmilk in quantities greater than 3 oz through security. Ignoring the fact that "reasonable quantities" of breastmilk, formula, and juice for children above 3 oz are permitted through security, I assume in liquid form, since when are frozen materials not permitted?
I keep DFW's public relations TSA number on my cell phone contacts, and have actually used them once or twice. They're actually pretty responsive during business hours. The number I have is 469.948.1828, although I haven't used it in a while. If you think you're going to have an issue ahead of time, they might work with you to clarify the policy ahead of time.
For this specific incident, you should either call DFW TSA and report it or else file a formal complaint. You can do it online or get a card at any DFW checkpoint. They need to 're-train' some TSOs, apparently.
Otherwise, the advice would be to keep printouts of the website and published policies quoted here, and escalate, escalate, escalate until you get to a supervisor/suit with some common sense.
Last edited by janetdoe; Jun 15, 2014 at 1:33 pm
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