TSA following Trusted Travelers' internet usage?
#16
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Lots of people are forced to get Trusted Traveller Status in order to avoid massive delays in getting anything done in the USA. I'm a NEXUS member, which has a very invasive questionnaire/interview by two governments, and I did it in order to avoid the almost guaranteed hour+ long lineups to enter the USA. Even with NEXUS it took me 34 minutes of lineup to enter the USA last weekend.
After a couple of 2-3+ hour border lineups to enter the USA you just give up and get something like NEXUS.
Only one country has ever made me wait more than an hour to enter, and that's the USA; and on more occasions than I can remember. It really is the biggest pain the ... border I've ever crossed.
After a couple of 2-3+ hour border lineups to enter the USA you just give up and get something like NEXUS.
Only one country has ever made me wait more than an hour to enter, and that's the USA; and on more occasions than I can remember. It really is the biggest pain the ... border I've ever crossed.
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If TSA proceeds with this, it is a disgusting development in itself as well as a big middle finger to the people who have been expressing concern about mass surveillance and other forms of government overreach. Federal government actors have obviously chosen to ignore the concerns that are being expressed by the public.
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If I had to bet, I'd bet that you clear today. That might change in the future if/when it's considered more publicly acceptable for the government to administratively punish way more people on the basis of "secret" criteria that includes supposed reading and discussion "behavior"/"habits". We are not there yet, but you can bet that the crowd that tells others to get over "privacy hang ups" is counting on it happening and wants it to happen.
We are on a dangerous path...
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Did Lockheed Martin's contract to train the TSA finally run out?
The original plus 4 option years should have ended and I cannot find the new company on FedBizOps.
I have a reason for asking related to the OP but wanted to confirm if LM was still involved.
The original plus 4 option years should have ended and I cannot find the new company on FedBizOps.
I have a reason for asking related to the OP but wanted to confirm if LM was still involved.
#21
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Too late. All your old posts are already indexed by Gooble and the No Such Agency. If you suddenly drop off the radar, it will only make you more of a suspect, as in "What do you suddenly have to hide?" Did you recently convert into an Ebil Tewwowist? Paranoid government agents reallty want to know. Just practice repeating "I Love Big Brother."
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You set up 2 email accts. One acct is for communicating with TSA, the other (which you don't divulge to TSA) is for all other communications.
#25
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I will never be a Trusted Traveler now: One of the graders for my final assignment in an on-line course on terrorism and counterterrorism commented that my essay on al-Shabaab was so on point that I must know people who are linked to al-Shabaab! After an initial O.O, I found it to be highly amusing. I think the grader's native language was not English and he/she was trying to be complimentary.
One of the people I related this story to said I need to be more careful about what I say on-line. I replied that, no, I need to say on-line exactly what I would have said prior to the revelations about mass surveillance. To censor myself is to accept an unjust restriction on my 1st Amendment rights. I run the sad risk of some TSA type deciding that I should be scrutinized "out of an abundance of caution" because of something I said on-line, but I will take that chance and I will not be silent about it.
One of the people I related this story to said I need to be more careful about what I say on-line. I replied that, no, I need to say on-line exactly what I would have said prior to the revelations about mass surveillance. To censor myself is to accept an unjust restriction on my 1st Amendment rights. I run the sad risk of some TSA type deciding that I should be scrutinized "out of an abundance of caution" because of something I said on-line, but I will take that chance and I will not be silent about it.
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I will never be a Trusted Traveler now: One of the graders for my final assignment in an on-line course on terrorism and counterterrorism commented that my essay on al-Shabaab was so on point that I must know people who are linked to al-Shabaab! After an initial O.O, I found it to be highly amusing. I think the grader's native language was not English and he/she was trying to be complimentary.
One of the people I related this story to said I need to be more careful about what I say on-line. I replied that, no, I need to say on-line exactly what I would have said prior to the revelations about mass surveillance. To censor myself is to accept an unjust restriction on my 1st Amendment rights. I run the sad risk of some TSA type deciding that I should be scrutinized "out of an abundance of caution" because of something I said on-line, but I will take that chance and I will not be silent about it.
One of the people I related this story to said I need to be more careful about what I say on-line. I replied that, no, I need to say on-line exactly what I would have said prior to the revelations about mass surveillance. To censor myself is to accept an unjust restriction on my 1st Amendment rights. I run the sad risk of some TSA type deciding that I should be scrutinized "out of an abundance of caution" because of something I said on-line, but I will take that chance and I will not be silent about it.
I'm no fan of "trusted traveler" programs that allow for the government to administratively make some/many free citizens into second class citizens, even as I'm still generally considered a first class citizen despite some shenanigans by some others. I'll be given the perks without taking on any sense of the obligations of these scam programs which I will continue to criticize as administrative gimmickry.
Last edited by GUWonder; Mar 25, 2014 at 8:57 am
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