Homeland Security bans carry-on liquids on flights from US to Russia
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You want to discuss chemical explosives? Meet me in TS&S and we can discuss anything you like. You can get as technical as you want, no problem. I'd be really pleased to meet *anyone* who can provide credible scientific evidence of the necessity for this stupid, unnecessary restriction.
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I'd be happy to hear all of your scientific evidence about how it is impossible, being as how you are so certain. I don't proclaim to be an expert, so I'm more interested in your bonafides. For now, I suspect we will have to disagree over whether having to buy toothpaste at your destination rises to "stupid" or "unnecessary.
If there's an explosive compound that can be disguised as toothpaste and can escape ETP/ETD detection, by all means let's hear about it. Otherwise, when government "security" fools who've yet to provide any evidence whatsoever that binary explosives exist start in with new scary claims, I now assume they're lying unless they can provide evidence to the contrary.
Again, if you want to discuss specifics I am more than happy to have a discussion on any technical level you like over in TS&S.
Dynamite or C4 is believed to be the explosive used; both are easily detectable with ETP/ETD. Got any thing else?
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In the ATL E concourse there's a walled off gate with a security screening checkpoint (metal detectors and xrays IIRC). It's used for flights to Israel from what I understand. If that's a standard restriction on Israel-bound flights, I'm sure they can use the same gates for Russia-bound flights.
On the JFK-TLV flights there are no x-rays (of people) at the gate but there are metal detectors and bag checks. Interestingly, on TLV-JFK flights there are only perfunctory checks of hand luggage (basically, you are asked if you have any liquids). I suspect that Delta knows that TLV has real security and is not worried about who and what is getting on its flights.
It is my understanding that the restrictions on flights to Russia are the same from every country and required by the Russians -- but will be lifted after the Winter Olympics.
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I have that it was 30 years ago. I suspect terrorists have learned a thing or two.
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The one brought down by CIA assets using explosives which can be detected and interdicted by way of using ETD/ETP technology without a dog and pony show that goes after toothpaste?
That "pencil" detonator and plastic explosives bomb looked, smelled and tasted like toothpaste?
That "pencil" detonator and plastic explosives bomb looked, smelled and tasted like toothpaste?
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It is seldom if ever that I'm a defender of TSA or DHS, but in this particular instance it is likely that they either had to issue this directive or face having US aircraft banned from Russia for the duration of the Olympics. I'd blame the Russians for this more than I'd blame the TSA/DHS. My $.02 FWIW.
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It is seldom if ever that I'm a defender of TSA or DHS, but in this particular instance it is likely that they either had to issue this directive or face having US aircraft banned from Russia for the duration of the Olympics. I'd blame the Russians for this more than I'd blame the TSA/DHS. My $.02 FWIW.
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In fact, not all flights would have to be banned. He can simply tell airlines which will not cooperate that they have to divert to another country (eg: Poland) and that flights from Russia and the country which allowed the landings would take the passengers the rest of the way.
This would be basically the same thing as someone in Beirut who wants to fly to TLV. He can not do it directly so he flies to Cyprus or Amman and then on to Israel.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/wo...kraine.html?hp
anything is possible. I think this is about politics and the USG picking its battles as much as anything. And the US would hardly be in a position to object; we've imposed our own security scheme on other countries and their aircraft headed for the US.
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Well, we are meddling in the Ukraine and even getting caught cursing out EU leaders over our greater willingness to meddle there than the EU leaders.
He could but would he? Reading his mind is that scientific?
Russia further restricted LAGs in carry-ons last month. This TSA action took place this month.
He could but would he? Reading his mind is that scientific?
Russia further restricted LAGs in carry-ons last month. This TSA action took place this month.
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No, but DL and SQ are the only non-Russian, commercially-scheduled passenger carriers that fly from the US to Russia. The gate checks for Aeroflot flights from the US to Russa haven't increased?
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