TSA to open PreCheck to all for a fee
Jul 20, 2013, 12:51 pm
#46
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I'm a non-US citizen living outside the USA signed up and have pre-check using a non-US address. Get a NEXUS card. Cheaper than the $85 they want for PreCheck.,
Jul 20, 2013, 2:12 pm
#48
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WAS
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You should apply for Global Entry. For just fifteen more dollars than the PreCheck application, you will also get expedited processing when entering the U.S. PreCheck selection for GE members is usually near 100 percent.
Jul 20, 2013, 3:15 pm
#49
Join Date: Nov 2010
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I don't fly internationally that often (though I am going to Germany in September), I don't know if GE is worth it if I'm not guaranteed PreCheck. That's what I'm looking for. If this program will guarantee me PreCheck (esp. out of PHL) then I'd be interested.
Jul 20, 2013, 3:16 pm
#50
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,090
Casual flyers are already thrifty enough, choosing the cheapest seats they can find. How many of them will really be willing to pony up the $85, go through the process with the interview six to twelve weeks out and meet all of the requirements? Most of them don't even like paying for bags (not that anyone does), but to charge them more for pre-screening a few times a year or once in a blue moon isn't really enticing to spend the money. They would rather put that down the slot machine in their "once-in-a-lifetime" vacation to Las Vegas.
Jul 20, 2013, 4:51 pm
#51
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Casual flyers are already thrifty enough, choosing the cheapest seats they can find. How many of them will really be willing to pony up the $85, go through the process with the interview six to twelve weeks out and meet all of the requirements? Most of them don't even like paying for bags (not that anyone does), but to charge them more for pre-screening a few times a year or once in a blue moon isn't really enticing to spend the money. They would rather put that down the slot machine in their "once-in-a-lifetime" vacation to Las Vegas.
The problem is the mid-tier folks on the fence about committing to Global Entry, now this opens another path.
Jul 20, 2013, 5:07 pm
#52
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Nothing will guarantee you PreCheck. This application process, like the GE process, will yield a PASS ID that you can enter into your Secure Flight profile. Chances are that, like GE, this program will yield a high percentage (95+) of PreCheck selection.
Jul 20, 2013, 5:08 pm
#53
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Actually, if security for everyone were like PreCheck (as it should be, and is in most of the World), lines would never get long enough to annoy you (as in most of the World), and you would zoom through, as I tend to do in most of the World.
Jul 20, 2013, 5:20 pm
#54
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The percentage may have dropped for GE members as of late. I am not currently sure what has come of inquiries being made over that because some of this involves PYOB/PDF boarding passes having PreCheck indications while the mobile boarding passes for the same passengers on the same flights did not.
Jul 22, 2013, 2:52 pm
#55
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 574
The security measures associated with letting a person travel
should occur when he applies for the passport.
As far back as the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), the Supreme Court recognized freedom of movement as a fundamental Constitutional right...
This cutesy stratified pay-to-play approach toward letting some people breeze through security for a fee is unacceptable. What's next, are we going to pay cops a small fee not to frisk us or beat us as we walk down city streets? Ridiculous.
should occur when he applies for the passport.
As far back as the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), the Supreme Court recognized freedom of movement as a fundamental Constitutional right...
This cutesy stratified pay-to-play approach toward letting some people breeze through security for a fee is unacceptable. What's next, are we going to pay cops a small fee not to frisk us or beat us as we walk down city streets? Ridiculous.
Last edited by yandosan; Jul 22, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Jul 22, 2013, 3:20 pm
#56
Join Date: Jan 2013
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The security measures associated with travelling should begin and end with issuing someone a passport.... This cutesy pay-to-play approach toward letting some people breeze through security for a fee is unacceptable. What's next, are we going to pay cops a small fee not to frisk us or beat us as we walk down city streets? Ridiculous.
Your suggestion that paying for the background check process is somehow analagous to extortion by a cop on the beat is equally mind-bending. It's not like TSA is leaving out tip jars for the screeners.
The alternative is that all taxpayers pay for something that only a small minority have any interest in. How is a fee-for-service model not preferable? Those interested in Pre-check pay for the administrative costs, and as a result there's little to no cost passed along to the taxpayer. Everyone wins.
Jul 22, 2013, 3:20 pm
#57
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Better idea: Everyone gets precheck-style security until the government can show reason that they shouldn't be eligible. Then, those who aren't given pre-check should be given $85.
Mike
Mike
Jul 22, 2013, 3:29 pm
#58
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Really, "begin and end with issuing someone a passport"? There should be no additional security measures for flights? We tried that in the 1970s, and hijackings were commonplace, even with relatively few people flying. Your Libertarian view is far outside the mainstream.
It's the very definition of extortion. Offering reduced harassment for cash + valuable personal information is a shakedown. Tony Soprano (RIP) would be proud.
Last edited by Spiff; Jul 22, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Jul 22, 2013, 6:27 pm
#60
Join Date: Dec 2012
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background
I'm wondering what the background check will include. I was turned down for GE because of a small but dumb decision in college. So will the pre background check disqualify you for that, or will it look for those who would pose a safety risk?