Denied Global Entry
Apr 17, 2013, 12:55 pm
#16
Join Date: Mar 2008
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"I had a bad attitude towards the Canadians when entering once - they asked me if I was happy to come to their country, and I said no, it was far inferior to the US."
You lived here but you thought it was inferior...... good on the CBSA for sending your arrogant ... back to the USA ! If only they could give you a lifetime ban. Do you cop that attitude with immigration officers in every country you visit ? Do the world a favour and stay in the USA !
You lived here but you thought it was inferior...... good on the CBSA for sending your arrogant ... back to the USA ! If only they could give you a lifetime ban. Do you cop that attitude with immigration officers in every country you visit ? Do the world a favour and stay in the USA !
Apr 17, 2013, 2:17 pm
#17
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3. Given that OP presumably knew that his record, both for criminal arrests and deportation (or exclusion) would be an issue, it would have been smart for OP to have gone back over the details and been crystal clear about them. Not suggesting that just being honest gets you over the hurdle, but not being honest is an outright denial.
They're not testing your memory. They're after your honesty in answering. Acknowledging the dates and asking how they want to go over them and then saying you'll do your best but might miss a few in the past is covering yourself for approval and (if denied) appeal. Being flippant is simply asking for a denial and skewering your chances of an appeal.
Apr 17, 2013, 2:33 pm
#18
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Honestly, I hope you are having a bad day today or something. But I dont really want you to have a GE card the way your acting on this board.
Last edited by TomBrady; Apr 18, 2013 at 9:10 am
Apr 17, 2013, 4:31 pm
#20
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Apr 17, 2013, 4:39 pm
#21
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"I had a bad attitude towards the Canadians when entering once - they asked me if I was happy to come to their country, and I said no, it was far inferior to the US."
You lived here but you thought it was inferior...... good on the CBSA for sending your arrogant ... back to the USA ! If only they could give you a lifetime ban. Do you cop that attitude with immigration officers in every country you visit ? Do the world a favour and stay in the USA !
You lived here but you thought it was inferior...... good on the CBSA for sending your arrogant ... back to the USA ! If only they could give you a lifetime ban. Do you cop that attitude with immigration officers in every country you visit ? Do the world a favour and stay in the USA !
Apr 18, 2013, 9:13 am
#22
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GE is a privilege, and it should be reserved for those who have the cleanest backgrounds with not hints of trouble.
Apr 18, 2013, 9:25 am
#23
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I think the "maybe" refers to whether the arrest record could be considered "long" - That is, if I'm not sure what others might consider a long arrest record, so "maybe" it is long by the standards of some.
Apr 18, 2013, 9:27 am
#24
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Why even have customs checks for US citizens then? Global entry is not about illegal immigration, it's about smuggling prohibited items, and there are plenty of U.S. citizens who think it is fine to bring in fruit, meat, Cuban cigars, and even drugs. So long as doing so is illegal, there need to be customs checks for such items unless a given person shows that they don't deserve to be checked because they are trustworthy.
Apr 18, 2013, 9:57 am
#25
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Why even have customs checks for US citizens then? Global entry is not about illegal immigration, it's about smuggling prohibited items, and there are plenty of U.S. citizens who think it is fine to bring in fruit, meat, Cuban cigars, and even drugs. So long as doing so is illegal, there need to be customs checks for such items unless a given person shows that they don't deserve to be checked because they are trustworthy.
I wills ay that it is interesting that people here got such detailed interview questions. I wasn't asked anything about my application -- just got a tutorial on how to use the system.
Apr 18, 2013, 3:48 pm
#26
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Customs enforcement is well possible without this "trusted traveler" Orwellian Animal Farm-like approach of the US Government/DHS.
Why even have customs checks for US citizens then? Global entry is not about illegal immigration, it's about smuggling prohibited items, and there are plenty of U.S. citizens who think it is fine to bring in fruit, meat, Cuban cigars, and even drugs. So long as doing so is illegal, there need to be customs checks for such items unless a given person shows that they don't deserve to be checked because they are trustworthy.
Last edited by GUWonder; Apr 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Apr 19, 2013, 2:27 am
#27
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The presumption should be in favor of granting GE. That doesn't make it a "right", but it should ensure that people with past issues will get a fair shot.
Apr 19, 2013, 3:07 pm
#28
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I'm sure some do. But I have confidence the number is a lot lower than for the average passport holder, but for intentional and unintentional illegal importation.
Apr 20, 2013, 12:17 pm
#29
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3
It seems that my arrests weren't sealed and they did appear. I wasn't trying to be aloof, but when I was asked what happened, I gave a brief answer. After 12 years, who would remember exactly what counts were filed against someone? The officer then started ticking them off. And I responded, OK, I guess so, but it was dismissed. Everything was dismissed. My point is I didn't lie about anything. When youre asked a general question "Have you ever been arrested", how much detail should you be prepared to volunteer at the outset? It all seems totally unfair. $100 for nothing.
Apr 20, 2013, 12:22 pm
#30
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I think GE should be a right for all free US citizens with a valid US passport. Your opinion is different than my opinon. My opinion doesn't support the DHS "all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others" hypocrisy that is but another instrument of administratively subjugating free persons. Does your opinion in support of DHS status quo do so? It seems to.
Customs enforcement is well possible without this "trusted traveler" Orwellian Animal Farm-like approach of the US Government/DHS.
As if "trusted travelers" don't also violate laws. As if non-GE-enabled US citizens are any more eager to violate federal laws than GE-enabled US citizens.
Customs enforcement is well possible without this "trusted traveler" Orwellian Animal Farm-like approach of the US Government/DHS.
As if "trusted travelers" don't also violate laws. As if non-GE-enabled US citizens are any more eager to violate federal laws than GE-enabled US citizens.
I believe in open borders. GE should be a minimum for every US citizen, but without any biometrics or interviews. Have valid passport? Wave and come on in. Or better yet, come on in.