Blogger Bob answers question "do TSO's have to identify themselves"
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Blogger Bob answers question "do TSO's have to identify themselves"
Many of our readers have asked if our officers are required to give their full name when asked by a passenger. Hopefully I can provide some clarification.
If asked, our officers are only required to provide their last name and rank. This information is printed on the nameplate on every officer’s uniform. Furthermore, supervisors, managers, and customer support managers are not required to provide the officer’s full name.
As far as the photo ID badge on the officer’s uniform, this is a badge that all airport employees must wear. It’s called a Security Identification Display Area (SIDA) badge. Basically, it’s a badge that allows employees access to non-public areas. One side of the badge has the employee’s full name on it. Many officers choose to wear their SIDA badges vs. a name badge. This is permissible.
If at any time you need to file a kudos or complaint regarding one of our officers, the only information you need for us to be able to recognize an employee or resolve an issue is:
Last Name/Rank/Date/Time/Location
Our officers have a right to privacy, and TSA has the responsibility of protecting our officers from the harassment that could result from revealing their full names.
Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team
If asked, our officers are only required to provide their last name and rank. This information is printed on the nameplate on every officer’s uniform. Furthermore, supervisors, managers, and customer support managers are not required to provide the officer’s full name.
As far as the photo ID badge on the officer’s uniform, this is a badge that all airport employees must wear. It’s called a Security Identification Display Area (SIDA) badge. Basically, it’s a badge that allows employees access to non-public areas. One side of the badge has the employee’s full name on it. Many officers choose to wear their SIDA badges vs. a name badge. This is permissible.
If at any time you need to file a kudos or complaint regarding one of our officers, the only information you need for us to be able to recognize an employee or resolve an issue is:
Last Name/Rank/Date/Time/Location
Our officers have a right to privacy, and TSA has the responsibility of protecting our officers from the harassment that could result from revealing their full names.
Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team
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So basically TSA "officers" are free to simply walk away when asked to identify themselves. Managers can't give out the information and the TSA can ignore the complaint because the required information isn't provided.
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Our officers have a right to privacy, and TSA has the responsibility of protecting our officers from the harassment that could result from revealing their full names.
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that only took two weeks to formulate.
Also in one part of the answer he says "This information is printed on the nameplate on every officer’s uniform" and then says "Many officers choose to wear their SIDA badges vs. a name badge".
Both cannot be true so the answer is misleading.
Also in one part of the answer he says "This information is printed on the nameplate on every officer’s uniform" and then says "Many officers choose to wear their SIDA badges vs. a name badge".
Both cannot be true so the answer is misleading.
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EDIT: Bob edited his post to link to a new image.
I just added this comment, referencing a photo URL that Bob provided.
>> Take a look at this image: http://bit.ly/TMF76g
Bob, you do realize I assume that the photo you reference comes from this article.
http://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-passenger-theft-irwin-670/
"A former screener with the TSA has pleaded guilty to charges relating to the theft of $520 during a routine security check last year, a move he says was motivated by his desire to punish a particular passenger. John W. Irwin, 60, admitted to taking a wad of cash from a passenger …"
One could not make this stuff up if one tried.
Too bad the joke's on us, the taxpayer.
I just added this comment, referencing a photo URL that Bob provided.
>> Take a look at this image: http://bit.ly/TMF76g
Bob, you do realize I assume that the photo you reference comes from this article.
http://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-passenger-theft-irwin-670/
"A former screener with the TSA has pleaded guilty to charges relating to the theft of $520 during a routine security check last year, a move he says was motivated by his desire to punish a particular passenger. John W. Irwin, 60, admitted to taking a wad of cash from a passenger …"
One could not make this stuff up if one tried.
Too bad the joke's on us, the taxpayer.
Last edited by saulblum; Dec 6, 2012 at 1:47 pm
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I just added this comment, referencing a photo URL that Bob provided.
>> Take a look at this image: http://bit.ly/TMF76g
Bob, you do realize I assume that the photo you reference comes from this article.
http://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-passenger-theft-irwin-670/
"A former screener with the TSA has pleaded guilty to charges relating to the theft of $520 during a routine security check last year, a move he says was motivated by his desire to punish a particular passenger. John W. Irwin, 60, admitted to taking a wad of cash from a passenger …"
One could not make this stuff up if one tried.
Too bad the joke's on us, the taxpayer.
>> Take a look at this image: http://bit.ly/TMF76g
Bob, you do realize I assume that the photo you reference comes from this article.
http://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-passenger-theft-irwin-670/
"A former screener with the TSA has pleaded guilty to charges relating to the theft of $520 during a routine security check last year, a move he says was motivated by his desire to punish a particular passenger. John W. Irwin, 60, admitted to taking a wad of cash from a passenger …"
One could not make this stuff up if one tried.
Too bad the joke's on us, the taxpayer.
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EDIT: Bob edited his post to link to a new image.
I just added this comment, referencing a photo URL that Bob provided.
>> Take a look at this image: http://bit.ly/TMF76g
Bob, you do realize I assume that the photo you reference comes from this article.
http://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-passenger-theft-irwin-670/
"A former screener with the TSA has pleaded guilty to charges relating to the theft of $520 during a routine security check last year, a move he says was motivated by his desire to punish a particular passenger. John W. Irwin, 60, admitted to taking a wad of cash from a passenger …"
One could not make this stuff up if one tried.
Too bad the joke's on us, the taxpayer.
I just added this comment, referencing a photo URL that Bob provided.
>> Take a look at this image: http://bit.ly/TMF76g
Bob, you do realize I assume that the photo you reference comes from this article.
http://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-passenger-theft-irwin-670/
"A former screener with the TSA has pleaded guilty to charges relating to the theft of $520 during a routine security check last year, a move he says was motivated by his desire to punish a particular passenger. John W. Irwin, 60, admitted to taking a wad of cash from a passenger …"
One could not make this stuff up if one tried.
Too bad the joke's on us, the taxpayer.
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The original image Bob displayed redirected to http://rt.com/files/usa/news/tsa-pas...shington.n.jpg
The weasel saw my comment, will likely not post it, and edited his post.
Too bad I do not have a screenshot.
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See my update.
The original image Bob displayed redirected to http://rt.com/files/usa/news/tsa-pas...shington.n.jpg
The weasel saw my comment, will likely not post it, and edited his post.
Too bad I do not have a screenshot.
The original image Bob displayed redirected to http://rt.com/files/usa/news/tsa-pas...shington.n.jpg
The weasel saw my comment, will likely not post it, and edited his post.
Too bad I do not have a screenshot.
Based upon this episode, looks like the lesson is to let embarrassing things stay for a while before calling attention to them, thus making it harder to revise history.
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In retrospect, I think the mistake was responding too quickly to the post, which gave him the opportunity to make the change before too many people saw the original link. Certainly not your fault, though.
Based upon this episode, looks like the lesson is to let embarrassing things stay for a while before calling attention to them, thus making it harder to revise history.
Based upon this episode, looks like the lesson is to let embarrassing things stay for a while before calling attention to them, thus making it harder to revise history.
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See my update.
The original image Bob displayed redirected to http://rt.com/files/usa/news/tsa-pas...shington.n.jpg
The original image Bob displayed redirected to http://rt.com/files/usa/news/tsa-pas...shington.n.jpg
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Apologies in advance to Mike for the crosspost but ,
There is precedent for what Bob says. SIDA and AOA are credentials used to gain access to the non-public areas of the airport, not to provide identification to the public. My crew badge was AOA, and it gave access to ops, the crew rooms, and "shadow of the aircraft" on the ramp. Airport Operations Area allows for blanket coverage for crew at all the airports they work flights out of, and in my case it was integrated into our company photo ID. SIDA is for ground based employees, usually issued by each individual airport. As late as the mid 1990s there were some airports placing really sensitive info on their SIDA like Social Security Numbers.
On board the aircraft we weren't supposed to have them visible. I wore mine on a ski pass lanyard, and stuck it my pocket as I was getting settled. Not that I cared if someone knew my last name or how bad my mugshot looked, I'd just rather not have it get tangled up in the shoulder harness if I needed to get out in a hurry. Same reason I wore a clip-on tie.
If a TSA employee is not wearing their metal tag with their last name on it, a Supervisor should be notified as they are out of uniform.
Now instead of providing just some calm factual information recently, TSA Blogger Bob Burns decided to stomp his feet up and down like a child and attack Amy Alkon. What purpose did that serve?
There is precedent for what Bob says. SIDA and AOA are credentials used to gain access to the non-public areas of the airport, not to provide identification to the public. My crew badge was AOA, and it gave access to ops, the crew rooms, and "shadow of the aircraft" on the ramp. Airport Operations Area allows for blanket coverage for crew at all the airports they work flights out of, and in my case it was integrated into our company photo ID. SIDA is for ground based employees, usually issued by each individual airport. As late as the mid 1990s there were some airports placing really sensitive info on their SIDA like Social Security Numbers.
On board the aircraft we weren't supposed to have them visible. I wore mine on a ski pass lanyard, and stuck it my pocket as I was getting settled. Not that I cared if someone knew my last name or how bad my mugshot looked, I'd just rather not have it get tangled up in the shoulder harness if I needed to get out in a hurry. Same reason I wore a clip-on tie.
If a TSA employee is not wearing their metal tag with their last name on it, a Supervisor should be notified as they are out of uniform.
Now instead of providing just some calm factual information recently, TSA Blogger Bob Burns decided to stomp his feet up and down like a child and attack Amy Alkon. What purpose did that serve?
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Many of our readers have asked if our officers are required to give their full name when asked by a passenger. Hopefully I can provide some clarification.
If asked, our officers are only required to provide their last name and rank. This information is printed on the nameplate on every officer’s uniform. Furthermore, supervisors, managers, and customer support managers are not required to provide the officer’s full name.
As far as the photo ID badge on the officer’s uniform, this is a badge that all airport employees must wear. It’s called a Security Identification Display Area (SIDA) badge. Basically, it’s a badge that allows employees access to non-public areas. One side of the badge has the employee’s full name on it. Many officers choose to wear their SIDA badges vs. a name badge. This is permissible.
If at any time you need to file a kudos or complaint regarding one of our officers, the only information you need for us to be able to recognize an employee or resolve an issue is:
Last Name/Rank/Date/Time/Location
Our officers have a right to privacy, and TSA has the responsibility of protecting our officers from the harassment that could result from revealing their full names.
Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team
If asked, our officers are only required to provide their last name and rank. This information is printed on the nameplate on every officer’s uniform. Furthermore, supervisors, managers, and customer support managers are not required to provide the officer’s full name.
As far as the photo ID badge on the officer’s uniform, this is a badge that all airport employees must wear. It’s called a Security Identification Display Area (SIDA) badge. Basically, it’s a badge that allows employees access to non-public areas. One side of the badge has the employee’s full name on it. Many officers choose to wear their SIDA badges vs. a name badge. This is permissible.
If at any time you need to file a kudos or complaint regarding one of our officers, the only information you need for us to be able to recognize an employee or resolve an issue is:
Last Name/Rank/Date/Time/Location
Our officers have a right to privacy, and TSA has the responsibility of protecting our officers from the harassment that could result from revealing their full names.
Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team
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