Update on Mocek v. Albuquerque et. al.

Old Oct 1, 2012, 8:15 pm
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Update on Mocek v. Albuquerque et. al.

Hi, all. My federal civil rights lawsuit against the police officers and airport security guards who were involved in the 2009 incident when I was falsely arrested at ABQ is making its way slowly through the court. I'm awaiting a response from the judge to the TSA defendants' motion to dismiss. There is no set timeline on which this must occur.

The Identity Project have posted an informative update on the civil suit along with a new FAQ about it.
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Old Oct 2, 2012, 9:17 am
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Thanks for the update. Are there any hearings set for motions, etc?
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Old Oct 2, 2012, 12:21 pm
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Go Phil!
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Old Oct 2, 2012, 2:03 pm
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Go get em, Tiger.
The people need to be treated with respect, instead of
the sheep-to-the-slaughter doom and gloom of modern US airports.

I videotaped this Sept 24, and the Mocek case was in my mind,
as inspiration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL36COSE0gs

Thought I'd stick up for my rights, and all hell broke loose.
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Old Oct 9, 2012, 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by Superguy
Are there any hearings set for motions, etc?
No. To my knowlege, no further action is yet scheduled.

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Go get'em, Phil!! We need more update. We will keep in touch.
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Old Oct 9, 2012, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by yandosan
Go get em, Tiger.
The people need to be treated with respect, instead of
the sheep-to-the-slaughter doom and gloom of modern US airports.

I videotaped this Sept 24, and the Mocek case was in my mind,
as inspiration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL36COSE0gs

Thought I'd stick up for my rights, and all hell broke loose.
I'm interested to know what happened to the guy right at the end of the clip who was trying to do a self-directed opt out through the metal detector. I got a glimpse of what I thought was the clerk pointing him in the direction of the cancer box. Did he opt out anyway or place himself in a higher risk category?
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 1:53 pm
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I did not even read their motion to dismiss and I knew what would claim.

Qualified Immunity (most, the vast majority, of Cops and TSA personnel, will state unequivocally that the Constitution does not apply at a airport; why they think this I do not know.)

And

You interfered with the screening process by talking back. (which is such a vague and arbitrary standard that it should be deemed unconstitutional.)

The only First Amendment (free speech) at an Airport comes from Hare Krishnas suing about collecting donations at an airport. The Supreme stated in essence that people don't want to bothered, business would be affected, etc. However, that case should not be read as an blanket tossing out of the Constitution or the First Amendment.

Good luck, Phil, through in some "Houston v. Hill" into your defense, Houston v. Hill stands for the right to talk back to police.
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 4:01 pm
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Say the TSO is video taped etc saying about the Constitution not being applicable at the airport. Does that qualify to be treated under Bivens actions umbrella? Seems to me as a clear intent to deprive of the Constitutional rights.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 9:22 am
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Exclamation Mocek v. Albuquerque et al: TSA defendants dismissed

"Judge Dismisses Defendants in Passengers Suit," by Scott Sandlin, Albuquerque Journal, January 22, 2013, page C1, http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/...gers-suit.html

It begins:

A Seattle man charged with disorderly conduct after refusing to show his ID at an Albuquerque airport security point and filming the reaction was cleared of criminal charges in Metropolitan Court in January 2011.

The civil lawsuit Phillip Mocek filed against Transportation Security Administration officers and the city of Albuquerque aviation police, however, hasnt fared as well.

In a 125-page opinion filed last week, U.S. District Judge James O. Browning dismissed the federal defendants from the lawsuit, and included language helpful to the citys defense.

Mary Lou Boelcke, Moceks attorney, said she expects to appeal the ruling, either before trial or after Browning decides other issues regarding the city.
Judge Browning's order (PDF; 2.5 MB) is available from the RECAP archive. The Identity Project maintain an excellent FAQ.

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Thanks for the update Phil. Just shows the judge is as crooked as the cops in ABQ.

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Old Jan 25, 2013, 1:18 pm
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Link for the judges order not working for me.

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Old Jan 25, 2013, 3:35 pm
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Phil, from what I read of the short statement, the charges still stand against the ABQ police, what did the judge include in the dismissal of the federal charges that helps the police?

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Old Jan 25, 2013, 3:48 pm
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Link for the judges order not working for me.
Here you go Boggie Dog.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by yandosan
Go get em, Tiger.
The people need to be treated with respect, instead of
the sheep-to-the-slaughter doom and gloom of modern US airports.

I videotaped this Sept 24, and the Mocek case was in my mind,
as inspiration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL36COSE0gs

Thought I'd stick up for my rights, and all hell broke loose.
This is more like taunting, and is ridiculous IMO. There's a difference between wanting to photograph/videotape for a reason, and then doing it just to see if you can get a reaction to post to YouTube. No different than walking around calling people jerks to their faces with a video until you can get someone to get mad and punch you. Ridiculous. OK, so you found someone that didn't know that part of the law - congratulations, you're a real American hero. Find a better use of your time.
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