Why there will never another 9/11
Jul 3, 2012, 10:51 am
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Why there will never another 9/11
For the TSA pumpers who still don't get it, this is why another 9/11 will never happen.
Two plane hijackers 'beaten to death by passengers' in China
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/t...-1226415821620
Two plane hijackers 'beaten to death by passengers' in China
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/t...-1226415821620
Jul 3, 2012, 11:23 am
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Too bad for the hijackers 
but sadly imho, there will be another 9/11 (tho I sincerely hope not) but it won't be via the use of an airplane (and also imho, if it happens in the U.S., it will be another we-had-all-the-pieces-but-the-left-hand-didn't-talk-to-nor-play-well-in-the-sandbox-with-the-right-hand situation)
but sadly imho, there will be another 9/11 (tho I sincerely hope not) but it won't be via the use of an airplane (and also imho, if it happens in the U.S., it will be another we-had-all-the-pieces-but-the-left-hand-didn't-talk-to-nor-play-well-in-the-sandbox-with-the-right-hand situation)
Jul 3, 2012, 11:56 am
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Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
Jul 3, 2012, 12:01 pm
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Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
More likely it won't involve aircraft or will involve unscreened cargo.
Or a TSO.
Jul 3, 2012, 12:04 pm
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Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
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Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
Jul 3, 2012, 1:12 pm
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Riiiiiiiight
Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the German-based World Uyghur Congress which campaigns for Uighurs’ rights, said that it wasn’t a hijacking attempt, rather an in-flight brawl over a seat dispute.
Jul 3, 2012, 1:24 pm
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Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
Jul 3, 2012, 3:06 pm
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It all depends on how you are defining '9/11' - not only will there be more 'terrorist' attacks in the future - by some party or other - by some means or other - the body counts will be higher, lower and about the same.
Why? Because 'never' is a long time - and terrorism is an attractive option in asymmetrical warfare.
Why? Because 'never' is a long time - and terrorism is an attractive option in asymmetrical warfare.
Jul 3, 2012, 7:49 pm
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Jul 4, 2012, 9:07 am
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It all depends on how you are defining '9/11' - not only will there be more 'terrorist' attacks in the future - by some party or other - by some means or other - the body counts will be higher, lower and about the same.
Why? Because 'never' is a long time - and terrorism is an attractive option in asymmetrical warfare.
Why? Because 'never' is a long time - and terrorism is an attractive option in asymmetrical warfare.
Jul 4, 2012, 10:04 am
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You guys need a little more imagination if you're going to become good terrorists...
The passenger rebellion factor is relatively easy to overcome. Use the same techniques that we use to find lightly booked flights to get easier upgrades, or heavily booked flights to get IDB vouchers, to find lightly booked flights then put more hijackers on each airplane. 50 random passengers aren't going to have much change against 20 young, fit, trained hijackers in the small confines of an airliner.
Harder to overcome, though not impossible, are the locked cockpit door and no cooperation procedures. Getting past that locked door would likely require some kind of diversion which looks nothing at all like a hijacking. i.e. Medical problem, small cabin fire, etc.
The security hole that David Burke used on PSA1771 was closed in the early 1990s when the electronic ID badge access systems were installed in all commercial airports. The airlines can now turn off an employees airport access immediately. Once off, the only way for the employee to get air-side is through security.
Actually, it's not.
The main focus of TSA is preventing explosives from getting on board as evidenced by all of the technologies and procedures that they have implemented over the past ten years aimed squarely at explosive detection. 100% screening of checked baggage for explosives, better x-ray scanners which can highlight the difference between organic and inorganic materials in carry-on bags, ETD screening, AIT scanners, and the all-popular enhanced pat-down procedure.
While preventing weapons which would aid in a conventional hijacking is still part of their mission, the chances of such an attack succeeding has been reduced and the terrorists have switched their method of attack to explosives.
The passenger rebellion factor is relatively easy to overcome. Use the same techniques that we use to find lightly booked flights to get easier upgrades, or heavily booked flights to get IDB vouchers, to find lightly booked flights then put more hijackers on each airplane. 50 random passengers aren't going to have much change against 20 young, fit, trained hijackers in the small confines of an airliner.
Harder to overcome, though not impossible, are the locked cockpit door and no cooperation procedures. Getting past that locked door would likely require some kind of diversion which looks nothing at all like a hijacking. i.e. Medical problem, small cabin fire, etc.
The main focus of TSA is preventing explosives from getting on board as evidenced by all of the technologies and procedures that they have implemented over the past ten years aimed squarely at explosive detection. 100% screening of checked baggage for explosives, better x-ray scanners which can highlight the difference between organic and inorganic materials in carry-on bags, ETD screening, AIT scanners, and the all-popular enhanced pat-down procedure.
While preventing weapons which would aid in a conventional hijacking is still part of their mission, the chances of such an attack succeeding has been reduced and the terrorists have switched their method of attack to explosives.
