Why there will never another 9/11
For the TSA pumpers who still don't get it, this is why another 9/11 will never happen.
Two plane hijackers 'beaten to death by passengers' in China http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/t...-1226415821620 |
Too bad for the hijackers ;) but sadly imho, there will be another 9/11 (tho I sincerely hope not) but it won't be via the use of an airplane (and also imho, if it happens in the U.S., it will be another we-had-all-the-pieces-but-the-left-hand-didn't-talk-to-nor-play-well-in-the-sandbox-with-the-right-hand situation)
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Originally Posted by goalie
(Post 18864334)
Too bad for the hijackers ;) but sadly imho, there will be another 9/11 (tho I sincerely hope not) but it won't be via the use of an airplane
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Originally Posted by alanR
(Post 18864531)
Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
More likely it won't involve aircraft or will involve unscreened cargo. Or a TSO. |
Originally Posted by alanR
(Post 18864531)
Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
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Originally Posted by VelvetJones
(Post 18864586)
Life involves risk.
Say it ain't so! |
Originally Posted by lovely15
(Post 18864560)
Highly unlikely.
More likely it won't involve aircraft or will involve unscreened cargo. Or a TSO. |
Originally Posted by alanR
(Post 18864531)
Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
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Riiiiiiiight
Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the German-based World Uyghur Congress which campaigns for Uighurs’ rights, said that it wasn’t a hijacking attempt, rather an in-flight brawl over a seat dispute. |
Originally Posted by alanR
(Post 18864531)
Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
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It all depends on how you are defining '9/11' - not only will there be more 'terrorist' attacks in the future - by some party or other - by some means or other - the body counts will be higher, lower and about the same.
Why? Because 'never' is a long time - and terrorism is an attractive option in asymmetrical warfare. |
Originally Posted by alanR
(Post 18864531)
Member of the Flight Deck Officer Program takes his gun, shoots their fellow pilot after take off, declares and emergency and in the confusion flies plane into building - even if the rest of the crew know what's happening they can't do anything about it as the door is locked
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Originally Posted by Michael El
(Post 18864973)
Riiiiiiiight
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Originally Posted by Darkumbra
(Post 18865671)
It all depends on how you are defining '9/11' - not only will there be more 'terrorist' attacks in the future - by some party or other - by some means or other - the body counts will be higher, lower and about the same.
Why? Because 'never' is a long time - and terrorism is an attractive option in asymmetrical warfare. |
You guys need a little more imagination if you're going to become good terrorists...
The passenger rebellion factor is relatively easy to overcome. Use the same techniques that we use to find lightly booked flights to get easier upgrades, or heavily booked flights to get IDB vouchers, to find lightly booked flights then put more hijackers on each airplane. 50 random passengers aren't going to have much change against 20 young, fit, trained hijackers in the small confines of an airliner. Harder to overcome, though not impossible, are the locked cockpit door and no cooperation procedures. Getting past that locked door would likely require some kind of diversion which looks nothing at all like a hijacking. i.e. Medical problem, small cabin fire, etc.
Originally Posted by 16A
(Post 18864811)
Read up on PSA Flight 1771 for the more likely scenario. Yet ground personnel can still bypass security.
Originally Posted by VelvetJones
(Post 18869283)
I mean 9/11 in the context of hijackers, either lone or in multiple teams, taking over planes and using them as missiles. This scenario is the one the TSA uses to justify it's existence
The main focus of TSA is preventing explosives from getting on board as evidenced by all of the technologies and procedures that they have implemented over the past ten years aimed squarely at explosive detection. 100% screening of checked baggage for explosives, better x-ray scanners which can highlight the difference between organic and inorganic materials in carry-on bags, ETD screening, AIT scanners, and the all-popular enhanced pat-down procedure. While preventing weapons which would aid in a conventional hijacking is still part of their mission, the chances of such an attack succeeding has been reduced and the terrorists have switched their method of attack to explosives. |
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