Updated thoughts on the "Trusted" traveler program
Jun 27, 2013, 5:13 pm
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Jun 28, 2013, 12:29 am
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What is the connection between paying a fee and being a low-risk traveler?
Jun 29, 2013, 7:17 pm
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Jan 30, 2014, 8:36 pm
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But you don't even need to fly around enough to get status to qualify. You can simply pay the fee and sign up.
Jan 30, 2014, 8:46 pm
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Mar 18, 2014, 6:51 am
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My question is whether or not the opt-out is possible in the expedited line. I agree that shoes on / laptop in the bag isn't much of an improvement at all. I use slip on shoes and have a top loading laptop case. The biggest delay is removing all metallic items. 
Mar 18, 2014, 11:12 am
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Being that it's generally only a few things at most, I usually just throw them in my bag before I even get to the ID check, and then when I get to the X-ray I just throw my bag(s) on the belt (as I don't have to remove anything, it's not just laptops and shoes that you don't need to remove, you don't need to remove anything) and walk through the metal detector.
Mar 18, 2014, 2:26 pm
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If by expedited line, you mean the Pre-Check line, it isn't clear what you mean by opt out. Opting out usually refers to the Whole Body Image (WBI) machines. But, WBIs are not used in the Pre-Check lines.
May 20, 2014, 11:55 am
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I know this was posted a while ago, but it is possible to opt out.
May 20, 2014, 12:16 pm
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For clarification: There is nothing to opt out OF in the Pre-Check line. Pre-Check, by default, uses a walk-through metal detector (WTMD) as its primary screening methodology, rather than the Millimeter Wave (MMW) Whole Body Imaging (WBI) scanners.
It is the WBI scanners, often referred to as Nude-O-Scope or NoS here on FlyerTalk, which people opt out of, and they are not used in Pre-Check lines, only in standard screening lines.
It is the WBI scanners, often referred to as Nude-O-Scope or NoS here on FlyerTalk, which people opt out of, and they are not used in Pre-Check lines, only in standard screening lines.
Aug 31, 2014, 11:38 am
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While I don't know much about this "trusted" program, I would never pay for "pre-screen." From my experience via general observations, the pre-screen line does sometimes offer a huge advantage in terms of getting people through check-in in a timely manner. However, I've also seen far too often that TSA lets anyone into the pre-screen line, particularly when the regular line is especially long, which sort of defeats the purpose. I'm not paying the government money for expedited service when there's no guarantee that I'll actually get what I'm paying for.
Aug 31, 2014, 12:15 pm
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For clarification: There is nothing to opt out OF in the Pre-Check line. Pre-Check, by default, uses a walk-through metal detector (WTMD) as its primary screening methodology, rather than the Millimeter Wave (MMW) Whole Body Imaging (WBI) scanners.
It is the WBI scanners, often referred to as Nude-O-Scope or NoS here on FlyerTalk, which people opt out of, and they are not used in Pre-Check lines, only in standard screening lines.
It is the WBI scanners, often referred to as Nude-O-Scope or NoS here on FlyerTalk, which people opt out of, and they are not used in Pre-Check lines, only in standard screening lines.
Nappy originally said the NoS would only be for secondaries - we saw how that worked out. Very recently, Ross has posted that NoS will be 'available' to Pre users - supposedly because those with joint implants prefer it.
How long before Pre pax are regularly 'randomly' funneled to the NoS?
Aug 31, 2014, 1:04 pm
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While I don't know much about this "trusted" program, I would never pay for "pre-screen." From my experience via general observations, the pre-screen line does sometimes offer a huge advantage in terms of getting people through check-in in a timely manner. However, I've also seen far too often that TSA lets anyone into the pre-screen line, particularly when the regular line is especially long, which sort of defeats the purpose. I'm not paying the government money for expedited service when there's no guarantee that I'll actually get what I'm paying for.
IIRC, there was never a guarantee that Pre pax would always get to use the WTMD.
Nappy originally said the NoS would only be for secondaries - we saw how that worked out. Very recently, Ross has posted that NoS will be 'available' to Pre users - supposedly because those with joint implants prefer it.
How long before Pre pax are regularly 'randomly' funneled to the NoS?
Nappy originally said the NoS would only be for secondaries - we saw how that worked out. Very recently, Ross has posted that NoS will be 'available' to Pre users - supposedly because those with joint implants prefer it.
How long before Pre pax are regularly 'randomly' funneled to the NoS?
Aug 31, 2014, 1:12 pm
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Supposedly the TSA is substantially reducing (eliminating?) random Precheck unless you've opted in or signed up for the one of the trusted traveler programs.
It's already been happening at some airports. There was a report by fellow member CDKing that it happened to him at JFK.
It's already been happening at some airports. There was a report by fellow member CDKing that it happened to him at JFK.
I wonder if the 'involuntary medical opt-outs' for Pre pax will still include the mandatory bag search-and-swab. 'Pre' means "we might think about trusting you a little bit, just this once' and "involuntary medical opt-out because I'm physically unable to assume and hold the position" cancels out the trust and you're just another pax who is guilty because you dared to show up at the checkpoint with physical limitations and hoping to fly.