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Dec 1, 2016, 5:37 am
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No Thanksgiving Harassment
My ride from Union Station to Albany was uneventful (except for my MARC commuter train -- more in the AMTRAK thread). The only harassers I saw were two BWI airport cops standing on the platform. Since the train station is located at BWI, I suspect they were out there just to keep them busy. I didn't see any TSA at Union Station, Penn Station or Albany.
Dec 3, 2016, 9:16 am
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My ride from Union Station to Albany was uneventful (except for my MARC commuter train -- more in the AMTRAK thread). The only harassers I saw were two BWI airport cops standing on the platform. Since the train station is located at BWI, I suspect they were out there just to keep them busy. I didn't see any TSA at Union Station, Penn Station or Albany.
Dec 3, 2016, 10:07 am
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Same thing applies here concerning transportation security.
Dec 3, 2016, 12:03 pm
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Observing without inferring with passenger flow will aid security. If you want to live in a world where transportation security isn't needed, build a time machine. But those of us who recognize that transportation is regular target of terrorism in the here and now appreciate LE presence that does not interfere with the lawful actions of passengers.
Somewhere recently I saw a study that the frequent presence of cops in certain public places cut down on pickpocketing and petty theft. Even if that is all the LE on the platform do, it is a net public benefit, and the LE do not deserve to be described as "harassers".
Dec 3, 2016, 2:40 pm
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Wrong.
Observing without inferring with passenger flow will aid security. If you want to live in a world where transportation security isn't needed, build a time machine. But those of us who recognize that transportation is regular target of terrorism in the here and now appreciate LE presence that does not interfere with the lawful actions of passengers.
Somewhere recently I saw a study that the frequent presence of cops in certain public places cut down on pickpocketing and petty theft. Even if that is all the LE on the platform do, it is a net public benefit, and the LE do not deserve to be described as "harassers".
Observing without inferring with passenger flow will aid security. If you want to live in a world where transportation security isn't needed, build a time machine. But those of us who recognize that transportation is regular target of terrorism in the here and now appreciate LE presence that does not interfere with the lawful actions of passengers.
Somewhere recently I saw a study that the frequent presence of cops in certain public places cut down on pickpocketing and petty theft. Even if that is all the LE on the platform do, it is a net public benefit, and the LE do not deserve to be described as "harassers".
Feb 9, 2017, 9:39 am
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Edit to add: I'm never worried about LE Officers, <redacted by moderator>. I do feel safer with LE officers just observing and paying attention. <redacted by moderator>.
Last edited by TWA884; Feb 9, 2017 at 10:47 am Reason: Gross pejorative generalization of TSA employees
Feb 9, 2017, 11:34 am
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