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Old Jul 28, 13, 10:22 pm   #1
 
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Converting from United Mileage Plus Select to Explorer

I am interested in converting from the United Mileage Plus Select to the Explorer card because of the "No Foreign Transaction Fee". A few questions to see if anyone in this forum has recommendations:

1. Does the Explorer card has favorable foreign exchange rates? That is, the total amount charge for a foreign spending is better for the Explorer card than the Mileage Plus Select.

2. I have a long history with the Mileage Plus select and don't want to lose the credit history. Can I keep the same card number and credit history after converting to the Explorer card.

3. Any benefits on the Mileage Plus Select that is better than the Explorer, besides the lower annual fee?

A bit of background. I am a lifetime Premier Gold so I don't need the free check bags privileges. Main reason for change is the no foreign transaction fee.

Thanks.

Joe
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Old Jul 28, 13, 10:43 pm   #2
 
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Converting from United Mileage Plus Select to Explorer

1. I would think the rates from Chase would be the same.

2. Yes, just call Chase and tell them you want to do a product change/upgrade. Your account number will be the same, but remember you won't get any sign up bonuses.

3. None that I'm aware of.
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Old Jul 28, 13, 10:44 pm   #3
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1. I would think the rates from Chase would be the same.

2. Yes, just call Chase and tell them you want to do a product change/upgrade. Your account number will be the same, but remember you won't get any sign up bonuses.

3. None that I'm aware of.
I would consider the much broader earning categories to be a huge benefit.
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Old Jul 29, 13, 12:46 am   #4
 
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I would consider the much broader earning categories to be a huge benefit.
This.

Also, are you sure you have to "convert," since they're different products? Or do you just not want to have to pay the annual fee on both?
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Old Jul 29, 13, 12:59 am   #5
 
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IMHO, converting is a very bad idea. Just apply for a new card and GET THE BONUS!

Effect on credit rating is tiny if there even is one.
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Old Jul 29, 13, 1:02 am   #6
 
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This.

Also, are you sure you have to "convert," since they're different products? Or do you just not want to have to pay the annual fee on both?
I only wanted one United credit card, and don't want to pay the fees on cards I don't use. I mainly my AMEX but I keep the United card for credit history reason since I had it the longest. I keep very few credit cards and regularly use only two of them (AMEX and United).
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Old Jul 29, 13, 2:13 am   #7
 
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IMHO, converting is a very bad idea. Just apply for a new card and GET THE BONUS!

Effect on credit rating is tiny if there even is one.
And for both the Explorer card and the Chase Sapphire Preferred (another no foreign transaction fee card), there's no annual fee for the first year, so one could/would just cancel after one year and reapply, all while keeping the old Plus card untouched with the long credit history. BTW, if the old card is still used, it might be beneficial to send Chase a Secure Message when the annual fee pops up and say that you aren't happy with the annual fee and that you're wondering if they could offset it somehow for being a long time customer. They might pleasantly surprise.

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Old Jul 29, 13, 6:03 am   #8
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Converting from United Mileage Plus Select to Explorer

I think the Select card also gives you up to 5,000 PQM per year based on your United related purchases.
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Old Jul 29, 13, 7:58 am   #9
 
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To me the main strength of the MileagePlus Visa Select is the 1X PQM (up to 5,000 miles per year) and 3X RDM on United.com purchases. I also frequently take advantage of the 2X RDM on gas, dining and grocery.

What I am missing by not having the Explorer card is the chance for an upgrade on United award flights.

There should be cards out there that charge no foreign transaction fee and no annual fee, e.g., Barclaycard Arrival World MasterCard (the no-AF version, not the $89 version).
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Old Jul 29, 13, 9:23 am   #10
 
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The exchange rate is set by Visa and is the same for all cards. Generally, it's a fair rate.
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Old Jul 30, 13, 12:35 am   #11
 
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And for both the Explorer card and the Chase Sapphire Preferred (another no foreign transaction fee card), there's no annual fee for the first year, so one could/would just cancel after one year and reapply, all while keeping the old Plus card untouched with the long credit history. BTW, if the old card is still used, it might be beneficial to send Chase a Secure Message when the annual fee pops up and say that you aren't happy with the annual fee and that you're wondering if they could offset it somehow for being a long time customer. They might pleasantly surprise.
That's a good suggestion, apply and use the card for the first year (without annual fee). You are right that the card company has some discretion to reduce the annual fee or give some incentives. Last year, I called AMEX and said I wanted to cancel my AMEX Gold card and the agent gave me 7500 reward points.
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Old Jul 30, 13, 11:04 am   #12
 
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I only wanted one United credit card, and don't want to pay the fees on cards I don't use. I mainly my AMEX but I keep the United card for credit history reason since I had it the longest. I keep very few credit cards and regularly use only two of them (AMEX and United).
Keep the United Visa Select. Its earning potential is so much better than the Explorer. Its only one of two cards I pay the AF fee on.
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Old Jul 30, 13, 12:28 pm   #13
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I just wish we could downgrade or convert to this card.
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Old Jul 31, 13, 12:54 am   #14
 
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Keep the United Visa Select. Its earning potential is so much better than the Explorer. Its only one of two cards I pay the AF fee on.
The earning potential of the United Visa Select was mentioned a few times by forum members. I might have missed something. Are you referring to the 5000 EQM and the 3 miles per dollar spend on United?

If those are the main earning difference for the select vs. the explorer, then they are not as important for me. I am lifetime Premier Gold. My business air travels are charged on the corporate AMEX card with no reward of any kind. The most I spend on United are paying the taxes on award tickets and buying a meal and a drink on domestic flights.

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Old Jul 31, 13, 9:27 am   #15
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The earning potential of the United Visa Select was mentioned a few times by forum members. I might have missed something. Are you referring to the 5000 EQM and the 3 miles per dollar spend on United?

If those are the main earning difference for the select vs. the explorer, then they are not as important for me. I am lifetime Premier Gold. My business air travels are charged on the corporate AMEX card with no reward of any kind. The most I spend on United are paying the taxes on award tickets and buying a meal and a drink on domestic flights.

Joe
The 2x on dining and gas is a big one that you missed.
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