[Consolidated] Chase Amazon VISA [redemption values changing; see post #65]
#16
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: LAX
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Has anyone tried to redeem the 25k points on a Chase card (in my case, Amazon) for an airline ticket over $400?
The BWI-SLC route is almost always over $400, even in the offseason. Do I simply get a credit of $400 when I book with points, then I pay the rest out of pocket, or does the ticket really have to be $400 or less?
The BWI-SLC route is almost always over $400, even in the offseason. Do I simply get a credit of $400 when I book with points, then I pay the rest out of pocket, or does the ticket really have to be $400 or less?
#18
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: L.A.
Programs: WN A-list & CP, Delta GM
Posts: 448
Is this specific for the Amazon card? With Ultimate Rewards, you only get 1 cpp and Sapphire Preferred gives 1.25 cpp when redeemed for travel.
I just found out about this. Yuck. So now it's just a penny per point for any option except for the miles for a ticket option - which is 1.6cpm for up to $400 domestic or 1.78cpm for a $1600 ticket "anywhere." 1cpm is pitiful. At least with Capital One there are some options beyond 1cpm, though they fluctuate just as much lately.
Anyone had success in moving the points to Ultimate Rewards as mentioned? I just snagged a Sapphire card so I'd like to call and move my balance over there.
I intend to keep my Amazon card, despite the decline of perks, just because it's one of my oldest credit accounts.
Anyone had success in moving the points to Ultimate Rewards as mentioned? I just snagged a Sapphire card so I'd like to call and move my balance over there.
I intend to keep my Amazon card, despite the decline of perks, just because it's one of my oldest credit accounts.
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#21
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 194
Amazon VISA card question
Hi, I'm sure many of you are aware of the temporary 10x point bonus on Amazon digital purchases till 12/31. I plan on utilizing this very much , and I was wondering if regular users of the card could share when the rewards points are deposited?
If I spend say a grand this billing cycle, will my 10,000 points be available for use right after the billing cycle closes and the next statement is made? I want to use the points to make an important purchase ASAP, so I'm hoping the points will be reflected right after the current billing cycle closes.
I hope this makes sense....any active users of the card, please let me know. Thanks again!
If I spend say a grand this billing cycle, will my 10,000 points be available for use right after the billing cycle closes and the next statement is made? I want to use the points to make an important purchase ASAP, so I'm hoping the points will be reflected right after the current billing cycle closes.
I hope this makes sense....any active users of the card, please let me know. Thanks again!
#22
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 1,277
Earn miles with Amazon Visa reward flight?
I have the Chase amazon.com Visa, that I pretty much use exclusively for my Amazon purchases and nothing else. One of the rewards is a plane ticket up to $400 for 25k points.
As I understand it, I call them to book a ticket, and they just search the same fares I can find and book it for me. What I want to know is how the airline (UA, in my case) treats these tickets. Are they "award" tickets that I can't earn miles on or just treated as if I purchased them through Orbitz or elsewhere? My guess is the latter, but I want to confirm before using them.
Thanks!
As I understand it, I call them to book a ticket, and they just search the same fares I can find and book it for me. What I want to know is how the airline (UA, in my case) treats these tickets. Are they "award" tickets that I can't earn miles on or just treated as if I purchased them through Orbitz or elsewhere? My guess is the latter, but I want to confirm before using them.
Thanks!
#23
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,295
I have the Chase amazon.com Visa, that I pretty much use exclusively for my Amazon purchases and nothing else. One of the rewards is a plane ticket up to $400 for 25k points.
As I understand it, I call them to book a ticket, and they just search the same fares I can find and book it for me. What I want to know is how the airline (UA, in my case) treats these tickets. Are they "award" tickets that I can't earn miles on or just treated as if I purchased them through Orbitz or elsewhere? My guess is the latter, but I want to confirm before using them.
Thanks!
As I understand it, I call them to book a ticket, and they just search the same fares I can find and book it for me. What I want to know is how the airline (UA, in my case) treats these tickets. Are they "award" tickets that I can't earn miles on or just treated as if I purchased them through Orbitz or elsewhere? My guess is the latter, but I want to confirm before using them.
Thanks!
#24
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 1,277
I don't have the card, so I don't know, but whatever fare class they book you in is what you'll receive miles for. I'd guess very strongly that you'd receive miles for it - I bet they just use a Chase booking engine (like for the Sapphire rewards cards) to make the booking.
#25
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 148
I've confirmed that you do get miles. Actually as far as the airlines are concerned, your ticket is booked in standard published inventory as if you had paid the cash yourself. You can even cancel the ticket if your travel plans change, the ticket value can be applied toward another flight (after change fees, of course).
Assuming that you buy a flight that's worth at least $400, it seems that you get 1.6 cents per point in value.
This starts to look pretty good if you shop at Amazon a lot (3X points) or use it at restaurants, gas stations, and drug stores (2X). I'd probably use my Starwood Amex card for pretty much everything else. Anything can see anything wrong with this strategy?
Assuming that you buy a flight that's worth at least $400, it seems that you get 1.6 cents per point in value.
This starts to look pretty good if you shop at Amazon a lot (3X points) or use it at restaurants, gas stations, and drug stores (2X). I'd probably use my Starwood Amex card for pretty much everything else. Anything can see anything wrong with this strategy?
#26
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 142
Amazon points for flights
Does anyone know a way around the 30 day rule they have? I was told when booking flights with points from the amazon card the max stay is 30 days. Can i book and then change the dates to a longer period with the airline?
I would assume once they buy the ticket, i will be able to control the ticket from there? Meaning it would show up under my frequent flyer account on the respected airline?
I would assume once they buy the ticket, i will be able to control the ticket from there? Meaning it would show up under my frequent flyer account on the respected airline?
#27
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: US CP, MR Plat, SPG Plat, HHonors Gold, National X
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Given the upper bound on the value of the ticket ($400 for domestic or $800 for international) and the typical penalties for changing a ticket ($150 and $250 respectively), I think was you have in mind reduces the redemption value tremendously.
Plus, since these tickets are being sold through a third party, I'm not exactly sure how a refund would be handled, in order to apply the residual value towards your new itinerary!
Plus, since these tickets are being sold through a third party, I'm not exactly sure how a refund would be handled, in order to apply the residual value towards your new itinerary!
#28
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
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The 30 days max stay clause sounds like such tickets are not the normal tickets which normally dont have such restriction.
Several things you need to factor in:
1) restricted fare for domestic ticket generally has $150 change fee. $250 to $450 for international ticket.
2) airlines charge a fee typically $25 to $35 for "take ownership" of a ticket that is bought from 3rd party.
So right out of bat, you are losing $175 from a maximum $400 value domestic ticket for what you have in mind.
May be it is better just for you to redeem it on a trip you actually would take without any change.
On the FF flyer front, you can always add your FF number to the booking, so you can see your trip online. But that does not mean you can "take control" your ticket and extend the stay at will.
Several things you need to factor in:
1) restricted fare for domestic ticket generally has $150 change fee. $250 to $450 for international ticket.
2) airlines charge a fee typically $25 to $35 for "take ownership" of a ticket that is bought from 3rd party.
So right out of bat, you are losing $175 from a maximum $400 value domestic ticket for what you have in mind.
May be it is better just for you to redeem it on a trip you actually would take without any change.
On the FF flyer front, you can always add your FF number to the booking, so you can see your trip online. But that does not mean you can "take control" your ticket and extend the stay at will.
#30
Join Date: May 2010
Location: IND
Programs: UA 1K Marriott Plat SPG Gold
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Looks like they changed the redemption option again. The 25K pts for a roundtrip ticket is no longer listed, it's replaced by the following vague terms:
"Redemptions may be made in 1 point increments for each $0.0100 incremental ticket value. For example, 20,000 points can be redeemed for a $200 airline ticket.
"... In addition, there may be bonus redemption offers for one roundtrip scheduled airline ticket with a “fixed” value, for a discounted number of points, available through our toll-free number, where permitted by law. Redemptions for this specific item have the service fee waived."
"...If you choose to book a ticket using the “fixed” ticket bonus option, and the actual ticket value is less, the number of points needed to redeem remains the same. For example, an offer to redeem 25,000 points for one roundtrip scheduled airline ticket valued at up to $335 will still require 25,000 points if the ticket you book is valued at $300."
There's no explanation of what these "fixed” ticket bonus options are.
"Redemptions may be made in 1 point increments for each $0.0100 incremental ticket value. For example, 20,000 points can be redeemed for a $200 airline ticket.
"... In addition, there may be bonus redemption offers for one roundtrip scheduled airline ticket with a “fixed” value, for a discounted number of points, available through our toll-free number, where permitted by law. Redemptions for this specific item have the service fee waived."
"...If you choose to book a ticket using the “fixed” ticket bonus option, and the actual ticket value is less, the number of points needed to redeem remains the same. For example, an offer to redeem 25,000 points for one roundtrip scheduled airline ticket valued at up to $335 will still require 25,000 points if the ticket you book is valued at $300."
There's no explanation of what these "fixed” ticket bonus options are.