CX Biz vs First Classes
#16
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This is so helpful. I saw ticket for business class from JFK-HKG-BALI - does that mean JFK-HKG have F and J then? I am really curious what their business look like compared to first class as in just the service, or biz has flat bed too comparable to first class. I know it's nicer, but what is nicer.
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Exactly. The F award should let you book anything UP TO first class. So if there was no business class award space on the DPS flight, but there was economy award space, you should be able to confirm that as well, and possibly wait list for the business seat (though I admit I'm not an expert on AsiaMiles reward rules, I'm coming at it from a AA perspective...)
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The Cathay flights from LAX to HKG are 881, 883, 885 and 897. It's hard to say which is the best, -- really depends on how you like to fly, what's important to you, how you deal with jetlag, etc. Take a good look at the departure and duration times and give it some thought. That will assist you in figuring out which will work best for you.
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btw, he's asking about LAX flights (I've posted above). 888/889 is obviously jfk/yvr you missed my point. cx845 is also ex-jfk and isn't close to any lax flight #s. only cx881 was lax.
anyway, maybe i'm just being an idiot. but i kinda feel like we're being messed with. someone who is sophisticated enough to navigate FT and its subpar interface can figure out how to google pictures of CX's J and F class, or visit www.cathaypacific.com, no?
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My apologies. You are right (op is messing with us).
relax, i'm being serious. i kinda wonder if we're just being messed with.
btw, he's asking about LAX flights (I've posted above). 888/889 is obviously jfk/yvr you missed my point. cx845 is also ex-jfk and isn't close to any lax flight #s. only cx881 was lax.
anyway, maybe i'm just being an idiot. but i kinda feel like we're being messed with. someone who is sophisticated enough to navigate FT and its subpar interface can figure out how to google pictures of CX's J and F class, or visit www.cathaypacific.com, no?
btw, he's asking about LAX flights (I've posted above). 888/889 is obviously jfk/yvr you missed my point. cx845 is also ex-jfk and isn't close to any lax flight #s. only cx881 was lax.
anyway, maybe i'm just being an idiot. but i kinda feel like we're being messed with. someone who is sophisticated enough to navigate FT and its subpar interface can figure out how to google pictures of CX's J and F class, or visit www.cathaypacific.com, no?
#27
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If you have money/miles to burn, then IMO the CX "F" product is worthwhile because you get a bigger seat than you do in "J".
There are a few other perks, but IMO (aside from the seat) they are not worth the premium unless you are booking with AA miles (where the premium is pretty small).
You get champagne and some upgraded liquor. You get some PJ's. You get to choose your meal time. Is all of that worth a 50% premium in miles?
The service is often "meh". I just took CX806 HKG-ORD last Thursday. The FA's were blah. I got better service from the biz class attendant! Seriously. (I didn't like the F choices for meals, and asked for the biz class menu. And, they had run out of Heineken in F so I went to chase some back in biz. One of the FA's in biz started coming up to check on me! Now THAT is great service! :-) Meanwhile... ignored by the F attendants.) I think I've flown 8-10 segments in F, and have had TWO where I thought the service was noteworthy.
IMO, the biz seat is just fine. Of course, the F is better. The only reason I take it is because there seems to be better F redemption availability when I'm trying to book. Every time I need to book F, I continue to watch J, hoping to "downgrade" and save the miles. From ORD, it's something like 145K miles for J, and 220K for F.
I don't think the F is worth it unless you have miles to burn.
There are a few other perks, but IMO (aside from the seat) they are not worth the premium unless you are booking with AA miles (where the premium is pretty small).
You get champagne and some upgraded liquor. You get some PJ's. You get to choose your meal time. Is all of that worth a 50% premium in miles?
The service is often "meh". I just took CX806 HKG-ORD last Thursday. The FA's were blah. I got better service from the biz class attendant! Seriously. (I didn't like the F choices for meals, and asked for the biz class menu. And, they had run out of Heineken in F so I went to chase some back in biz. One of the FA's in biz started coming up to check on me! Now THAT is great service! :-) Meanwhile... ignored by the F attendants.) I think I've flown 8-10 segments in F, and have had TWO where I thought the service was noteworthy.
IMO, the biz seat is just fine. Of course, the F is better. The only reason I take it is because there seems to be better F redemption availability when I'm trying to book. Every time I need to book F, I continue to watch J, hoping to "downgrade" and save the miles. From ORD, it's something like 145K miles for J, and 220K for F.
I don't think the F is worth it unless you have miles to burn.