might CX prefer empty F cabin?
Jul 21, 2014, 11:56 am
#1
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might CX prefer empty F cabin?
I am hoping to score an F award on HKG-ORD, 4 Aug. The seat map on EF shows all seats open, and availability is F6. So my first thought was that I need to be patient, award seats will be released.
But then it occurred to me that if CX can't sell any seats for money, it might find it more profitable to operate an empty cabin (no F staff to pay, no food options to be loaded).
Am I being unduly pessimistic?
But then it occurred to me that if CX can't sell any seats for money, it might find it more profitable to operate an empty cabin (no F staff to pay, no food options to be loaded).
Am I being unduly pessimistic?
Jul 21, 2014, 12:16 pm
#2
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I just checked and it shows F4 A4 so two seats have been sold.
CX 806 HKG
04/08/14 11:55 ORD
04/08/14 13:50 77W
Daily 45% / 33m
F4 A4 J9 C9 D7 I6 W8 R7 E2 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
As you may know they always hold up F seats till a week before they release for redemption. I would say call MPO a week before your departure to ask again.
CX 806 HKG
04/08/14 11:55 ORD
04/08/14 13:50 77W
Daily 45% / 33m
F4 A4 J9 C9 D7 I6 W8 R7 E2 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
As you may know they always hold up F seats till a week before they release for redemption. I would say call MPO a week before your departure to ask again.
Jul 21, 2014, 1:06 pm
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Jul 21, 2014, 1:14 pm
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I just checked and it shows F4 A4 so two seats have been sold.
CX 806 HKG
04/08/14 11:55 ORD
04/08/14 13:50 77W
Daily 45% / 33m
F4 A4 J9 C9 D7 I6 W8 R7 E2 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
As you may know they always hold up F seats till a week before they release for redemption. I would say call MPO a week before your departure to ask again.
CX 806 HKG
04/08/14 11:55 ORD
04/08/14 13:50 77W
Daily 45% / 33m
F4 A4 J9 C9 D7 I6 W8 R7 E2 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
As you may know they always hold up F seats till a week before they release for redemption. I would say call MPO a week before your departure to ask again.
In other words, F4 does not necessarily mean 2 seats have been sold.
I do not think CX always holds F awards until the week before. In fact, eg, for 14 Aug, there are 2 F awards for HKG-ORD on cx806.
Using the numbers you posted, the challege for the OP to get a F Class award on 4 Aug is probably that Economy class is very full, so there might be op-ups affecting F.
Last edited by IncyWincy; Jul 21, 2014 at 1:22 pm
Jul 21, 2014, 1:23 pm
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I screwed up; it was always showing F4, not F6. Brain fart.
Yes, in my experience F is released up to a month in advance.But J has empty seats.
Last edited by SeeBuyFly; Jul 21, 2014 at 1:29 pm
Jul 21, 2014, 1:42 pm
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Is it not the case that the maximum seats F shows is F4 just like the maximum number for J is J9 (also D9 etc) and for Y is Y9 (also H9 K9 etc) even if the respective cabins are empty?
In other words, F4 does not necessarily mean 2 seats have been sold.
I do not think CX always holds F awards until the week before. In fact, eg, for 14 Aug, there are 2 F awards for HKG-ORD on cx806.
Using the numbers you posted, the challege for the OP to get a F Class award on 4 Aug is probably that Economy class is very full, so there might be op-ups affecting F.
In other words, F4 does not necessarily mean 2 seats have been sold.
I do not think CX always holds F awards until the week before. In fact, eg, for 14 Aug, there are 2 F awards for HKG-ORD on cx806.
Using the numbers you posted, the challege for the OP to get a F Class award on 4 Aug is probably that Economy class is very full, so there might be op-ups affecting F.
I think your suspicion is probably correct. Y may be way oversold and CX is reserving some seats in J and F for op-ups.
Jul 21, 2014, 4:08 pm
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Jul 21, 2014, 9:15 pm
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Is it not the case that the maximum seats F shows is F4 just like the maximum number for J is J9 (also D9 etc) and for Y is Y9 (also H9 K9 etc) even if the respective cabins are empty?
In other words, F4 does not necessarily mean 2 seats have been sold.
I do not think CX always holds F awards until the week before. In fact, eg, for 14 Aug, there are 2 F awards for HKG-ORD on cx806.
Using the numbers you posted, the challege for the OP to get a F Class award on 4 Aug is probably that Economy class is very full, so there might be op-ups affecting F.
In other words, F4 does not necessarily mean 2 seats have been sold.
I do not think CX always holds F awards until the week before. In fact, eg, for 14 Aug, there are 2 F awards for HKG-ORD on cx806.
Using the numbers you posted, the challege for the OP to get a F Class award on 4 Aug is probably that Economy class is very full, so there might be op-ups affecting F.
Jul 21, 2014, 11:07 pm
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Jul 22, 2014, 3:15 pm
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Possible. Asked a CX FA before, and she said that they used empty F cabin as an opportunity to train less experienced FA how to do service in F.
Jul 22, 2014, 10:18 pm
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Of all the airlines out there, CX is among the most generous in releasing last-minute F space. I bet within T-48 hours, all of the unsold seats will be available for award booking.
Jul 22, 2014, 11:05 pm
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CX is generous as you said. But it is usually all bar 2 or at least 1. Totally understandable. Those who buy F often buy at last minute (or change seats). One should not assume no one will buy F just because it is T-48 before flight.
Jul 23, 2014, 1:41 am
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