GE90-115B

It takes about 1.5 days (roughly 30 hours or so) for each frame to complete one long haul cycle, there and back. If CX870 leaves today and won't be back until tomorrow night, whose going to fly next day's CX870?

leaccor

Simple, another frame that was previously serving a Europe / America / regional flight.

A frame isn't 100% tied down to one route to purely only do HKG-BOS-HKG-BOS-HKG back to back. Complex scheduling put them max use. ie. HKG-BOS-HKG-TPE-HKG-SIN-HKG-LHR-HKG-xxx. This is why there's so many infamous "regional swaps".

Dr. HFH

Don't forget ground time. And if the cycle time is >24 hours, you need four aircraft to maintain daily service once in each direction, right? Or have I miscalculated something?

freakinflyer001

As much as I believe BOS would be opt by a 77G, I just don't see how they could do it practically...

Currently they have 11 (out of the 41 77W) 77G a/c in service. Now I assume the BOS would start in the S15 season, that means the routes served by the 77G then would be:

EWR -- CX890/899 D
ORD -- CX800/801 3x
SFO -- CX870/879 D
YVR -- CX838/837 D
YYZ -- CX826/829 D
CX828/825 3x
LHR -- CX257/238 D
CX237/256 2x
CX239/256 5x
MAN -- CX357/358 4x
AMS -- CX271/270 D
CDG -- CX279/278 3x
FCO -- CX293/292 D
JNB -- CX748/749 D

As far as we can see now there are already 8 LH/ULH flights that require a daily 77G treatment, and is still subject to frequency increases (e.g MAN going daily)

Unless all the new 77Ws being delivered in 2014/2015 are 77Gs, I would say that there is good chance BOS would see 77H

cx826

i think the remaining new 777 in this year will be 77G as they need to use on new ORD, SFO daily and JNB, i think they have excess of 77H and quite tight for 77G, that is why we usually see 77H substitute 77G but not the reverse.

cx826

i think they will have 30 77H and 23 77G eventually as 30 77H are more than enough to cover ZRH which start next year. Let's assume they have 12 77G to join with new ORD, SFO, JNB, CDG, FCO, AMS, MAN, i think they still have three 77H spare out to replace some route from 77G to 77H.

TheBOSman

It isn't a reality check if I want the 77H instead of the 77G . They could move a 77H to another route though, like the ones mentioned below that previously had F, and take the 77G from that route. I'll keep holding out hope for 77H though, even if as noted I'm not the world's most profitable customer.

Also that the 77G doesn't have F and has fewer J seats than the 77H, you'd be downgrading all of F to J, and possibly J to PY or even Y if that happened. Whereas, as long as the number of booked passengers on a 77G doesn't exceed the number of seats on a 77H, there won't be any downgrades or denied boardings if a switch has to be made. And, op-ups, which aren't the worst way in a tight situation to solve the problem and are preferable to op-downs (for lack of a better term) or IDBs.

mikehillwig

I live on the approach path to 22L, departure path from 4R.

I'm fine with the 21:30 arrival on 22L. But when wind conditions require the inverse, a 4R departure at 01:30 will have it going right over my house. I can live with the 5AM redeye arrivals, but the 01:30 departure will not make me happy.

Dr. HFH

Are you close to the airport? I've always thought that the statute/shrine at the Don Orione Home is one of the coolest things!!

Arcanum

How about HKG-YVR-MIA? That would be a nice arrangement!

Dr. HFH

Could just barely be done, actually; though the LR version of the aircraft could do it quite comfortably (if CX had any!!). Boeing 777 range chart.

adambisi

How loud is it for you - I live on the Beverly/Salem line and I can even hear planes that are usually 5-10K feet above me.

Cathay Boy

Time for CX to go south of USA. Especially in Texas when you have tons of Chinese-ancestry population. I have no doubt if CX opens DFW-HKG or HOU-HKG it will be a huge success as EWR-HKG is.

TheBOSman

There's no chance they start DFW-HKG so soon after AA starts it. As for Houston, is there a lot of oil traffic going to HKG? I know they could probably get some connections to SIN for that traffic, but SQ already flies IAH-SIN via DME.

Dr. HFH

Yes, but I would imagine that most people who fly ex-IAH (U.S. citizens) would prefer a HKG connection to one at DME. Just much easier logistically, particularly in the event of IRROPS.