Cathay Potential A380 Order

Old Jul 14, 2012, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by maortega15
Not to mention the current teething issues with the aircraft. Afterall, its the first aircraft for Arbus in the jumbo market. As far as the A350's go, I think its a safe bet. I guess they learned their mistakes from the flaws of the A345/A346. The A330's have hit the right notes for CX and apparently CX is in love with them. So the A350's will just hit the right note for them I predict.
B777-300ER are superior over against A330s in every which way. I don't know how CX can fall in love with an inferior plane. I suspect the only reason for A350s purchase is the heavy discount. Airlines don't disclosed them but read the latest Wall Street Journal article on them. Airlines regularly get 30-60% off market listed price. I won't be surprise if Airbus given CX 50-60% off these A350-1000s that no one wanted to buy in 4 years.

Still wished CX have gotten some B787s to replace their regional fleets with. These regional planes are simply a joke that they really needed to go. Speaking of which, it's time for CX to seriously update their regional Biz class product. Even China Eastern's J product is starting to be as good as CX's J product. That's simply a joke to be able to put both of them in the same sentence.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 10:19 am
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Personally I prefer the A330s over 777s. Airbuses are so much quieter anywhere in the cabin.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by Cathay Boy
B777-300ER are superior over against A330s in every which way. I don't know how CX can fall in love with an inferior plane. I suspect the only reason for A350s purchase is the heavy discount. Airlines don't disclosed them but read the latest Wall Street Journal article on them. Airlines regularly get 30-60% off market listed price. I won't be surprise if Airbus given CX 50-60% off these A350-1000s that no one wanted to buy in 4 years.

Still wished CX have gotten some B787s to replace their regional fleets with. These regional planes are simply a joke that they really needed to go. Speaking of which, it's time for CX to seriously update their regional Biz class product. Even China Eastern's J product is starting to be as good as CX's J product. That's simply a joke to be able to put both of them in the same sentence.
I wasn't comparing the A330 with the 77W. We have both of them for different missions. And CX loves the A330 for medium haul ops. Hence we are the largest customer for the type and will have more comming in.

But from internal sources, we are looking at the 787-10 to replace the regional 773's.

And I say again, new regional seats are in the works!! Announcement should be later this year or next. The regional aircraft still have life in them so I hear where you are comming from. I feel the same way.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
Personally I prefer the A330s over 777s. Airbuses are so much quieter anywhere in the cabin.
I kinda agree eith you on this one guy. Even though I fly Boeings, I feel that Airbuses are quieter whether im on our A330 or A340's. From start-up to cruise to approach and landing, I feel buses are quieter than the 777. The 777 regardless whether its the 772, 773, or 77W, its just loud as hell!
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 11:14 am
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Back on topic, another reason we ordered the -1000 is for crew efficiency. For example as demand increases to Australia we can sub an A330 with the A350 while having the same cabin product, we can change from a -900 to -1000 for winter and summer operations in places like AKL, JNB, FCO, AMS, CDG. Our crew based in AKL are on the Airbus. They are not that efficient in summer when the 744 is used. With the A350, we can use the same crew to operate both the -900/-1000 and still provide reserve coverage for A330 flights in Australia. In short terms, if you want to up capacity, you don't have to swap out a flight with a completely different aircraft. You can just use a slightly larger variant. Just like the 772 and 773.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 9:06 pm
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Old Jul 15, 2012, 10:33 am
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Originally Posted by maortega15
And CX loves the A330 for medium haul ops.
As do most other airlines. For medium density, mid-haul ops, the A330s is the best you can get (unless you can wait for the 787 to arrive - which may be years until you can get a sizable fleet).
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 12:06 pm
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As do most other airlines. For medium density, mid-haul ops, the A330s is the best you can get (unless you can wait for the 787 to arrive - which may be years until you can get a sizable fleet).
Just read in an article that Boeing is really sweating to deliver B787s. There are over 40+ Boeing 787s sitting in different hangers and can't be delivered because they lack a few parts that the suppliers are finding it hard to deliver them on time. Boeing really is paying for their aggressive out-sourcing rather than keeping them in-house.
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