Photos of new Premium Economy & Economy Seats
Feb 26, 2012, 9:40 am
#61
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We are not currently speaking of 1000usd+++ for Y+. On a one way, HKG-JFK, from V to R, the price quoted to me by CX was 77usd...not really a huge amount...
And good point for foot rest only in first row....not great to have Y+ and no foot rest
And good point for foot rest only in first row....not great to have Y+ and no foot rest
Feb 26, 2012, 10:05 am
#62
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I guess only time will tell what people are willing to pay.
Feb 26, 2012, 10:35 am
#63
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It looks like there is a foot rest in all rows. It deploys from the seat in front, except in the first row. Maybe only the first row get the leg rest?
Feb 26, 2012, 10:49 am
#64
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'Front-row seats have a legrest, and other seats have a three-position footrest which help you find a variety of positions to make your flights as enjoyable as possible.'
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...umeconomyclass
Feb 26, 2012, 11:03 am
#65
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Very underwhelming and I guess like some other people have said, it is Y+ and not J-, but still, for a 5-star airline you would think they want to be industry leaders in all cabins. Anyway, slightly bigger, slightly more recline, slightly better IFE, you get juice/champagne as you board, a towel, and slightly better food. Yeah, I want to shell out another $1000-$2000 just so I can be "slightly" better than the Y seat? Not. I would rather use that money at bars, restaurants, saunas/spas in East Asia.
Wouldn't it suck if you got upgraded from Y extra leg room window seat to Y+ and had to sit in the center section, middle, one seat away from aisle?
Last edited by ahks; Feb 26, 2012 at 11:11 am
Feb 26, 2012, 11:11 am
#66
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Simple Math:
33B/33E: Y= 223
33G: Y=175, PY = 28
223-175= 48
28PY=48Y
PY=1.72Y
77A/77D: Y=238
77H: Y=182, PY=34
238-182=56
34PY=56Y
PY=1.65Y
So CX has to charge 70% more per seat just to break even with the Y seats lost...assuming cost savings are neglible.
33B/33E: Y= 223
33G: Y=175, PY = 28
223-175= 48
28PY=48Y
PY=1.72Y
77A/77D: Y=238
77H: Y=182, PY=34
238-182=56
34PY=56Y
PY=1.65Y
So CX has to charge 70% more per seat just to break even with the Y seats lost...assuming cost savings are neglible.
Feb 26, 2012, 12:37 pm
#67
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^ Excellent analysis, and I think it shows us where we can expect discounted Y+ pricing to be.
Feb 26, 2012, 1:31 pm
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Feb 26, 2012, 1:32 pm
#69
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+1. Nothing impressive. Looks like a copy of BA and Qantas Y+, without putting much extra thought into a more unique product like the new J. Thought Slosar said it would be more a like regional business class etc...
Wouldn't it suck if you got upgraded from Y extra leg room window seat to Y+ and had to sit in the center section, middle, one seat away from aisle?
Wouldn't it suck if you got upgraded from Y extra leg room window seat to Y+ and had to sit in the center section, middle, one seat away from aisle?
Feb 26, 2012, 2:01 pm
#70
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+1. Nothing impressive. Looks like a copy of BA and Qantas Y+, without putting much extra thought into a more unique product like the new J. Thought Slosar said it would be more a like regional business class etc...
Wouldn't it suck if you got upgraded from Y extra leg room window seat to Y+ and had to sit in the center section, middle, one seat away from aisle?
Wouldn't it suck if you got upgraded from Y extra leg room window seat to Y+ and had to sit in the center section, middle, one seat away from aisle?
http://airlineroute.net/2011/08/20/cx-77g-mar12/
Feb 26, 2012, 2:29 pm
#71
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Very underwhelming and I guess like some other people have said, it is Y+ and not J-, but still, for a 5-star airline you would think they want to be industry leaders in all cabins. Anyway, slightly bigger, slightly more recline, slightly better IFE, you get juice/champagne as you board, a towel, and slightly better food. Yeah, I want to shell out another $1000-$2000 just so I can be "slightly" better than the Y seat? Not. I would rather use that money at bars, restaurants, saunas/spas in East Asia.
Some write ups and picture here:
http://www.cnngo.com/explorations/li...details-791024
Feb 26, 2012, 2:36 pm
#72
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+1. Nothing impressive. Looks like a copy of BA and Qantas Y+, without putting much extra thought into a more unique product like the new J. Thought Slosar said it would be more a like regional business class etc...
Wouldn't it suck if you got upgraded from Y extra leg room window seat to Y+ and had to sit in the center section, middle, one seat away from aisle?
Wouldn't it suck if you got upgraded from Y extra leg room window seat to Y+ and had to sit in the center section, middle, one seat away from aisle?
Feb 26, 2012, 2:46 pm
#73
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EDIT: Is the screen in the seat in front? If so, the seat pitch must be very small... Taht means it is definitely the Weber 6810 seat.
Last edited by comcats; Feb 26, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Feb 26, 2012, 2:48 pm
#74
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One other thing...look at this pic:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/imag.../pic_PEY_3.jpg
HOw is the person behind supposed to watch the video screen in reclined position? Even if it angles out, it's still quite low. I suspect Y+ is CX's new hard shell seat. They've reduced capacity but not introduced a product that justifies the price increase.
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/imag.../pic_PEY_3.jpg
HOw is the person behind supposed to watch the video screen in reclined position? Even if it angles out, it's still quite low. I suspect Y+ is CX's new hard shell seat. They've reduced capacity but not introduced a product that justifies the price increase.