Feb 19, 2014, 11:47 am
Last edit by: SanDiego1K
Please see post #20 for the official announcement from our CC rep.
CC rep confirms that changes occur March 15.
List of all 2014 Category Changes
Properties going from 6 to 7 (50k to 70k points):
Radisson Royal Hotel, Dubai
Radisson Blu Le Dokhan’s Hotel, Paris Trocadero
Radisson Blu 1835 Hotel & Thalasso, Cannes
Radisson Blu Le Metropolitan Hotel, Paris Eiffel
Radisson Blu Hotel Champs Elysees, Paris
The May Fair (London)
Plaza on the River, London
art’otel, Amsterdam
Radisson Royal Hotel, Moscow
CC rep confirms that changes occur March 15.
List of all 2014 Category Changes
Properties going from 6 to 7 (50k to 70k points):
Radisson Royal Hotel, Dubai
Radisson Blu Le Dokhan’s Hotel, Paris Trocadero
Radisson Blu 1835 Hotel & Thalasso, Cannes
Radisson Blu Le Metropolitan Hotel, Paris Eiffel
Radisson Blu Hotel Champs Elysees, Paris
The May Fair (London)
Plaza on the River, London
art’otel, Amsterdam
Radisson Royal Hotel, Moscow
Club Carlson Program Changes eff. Mar 15, 2014
Feb 19, 2014, 9:22 am
#32
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: world
Programs: all
Posts: 1,422
It is a devaluation but IMHO it is not too bad. Compare this to what Hilton did recently and this is a walk in the park.
Had to happen with all the promos they kept running and how easy it has been to rack up the points
Had to happen with all the promos they kept running and how easy it has been to rack up the points
Feb 19, 2014, 9:23 am
#33
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: AA EP; WN CP;UA SILVER; MARRIOTT TITANIUM; HH DIAMOND; IHG PLAT; RADISSON PLAT; HYATT GLOBAL
Posts: 1,938
Expected.
It was a mater of time.
And I think that it could have been worse.
The last two years they had been passing out points like candy, and with the extremely generous US Bank credit card and last night free benefit, I still say this devaluation was mild.
At least they gave an advance warning.
It was a mater of time.
And I think that it could have been worse.
The last two years they had been passing out points like candy, and with the extremely generous US Bank credit card and last night free benefit, I still say this devaluation was mild.
At least they gave an advance warning.
Feb 19, 2014, 9:32 am
#34
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
My interpretation is, any stays beyond May 1st would be on the new chart.
It seems to work this way when I do some experiment bookings.
In other words, you only have up to May 1st to have award stays at the old chart rate? versus Hilton or Marriott or IHG or SPG, that you can book as far out as 15 months and on the old charts?
Feb 19, 2014, 9:43 am
#37
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
I notice that 2 hotels in/near Sochi, Russia are falling in category, as the Olympics end!
The 2000-point booking bonus is just that, a limited-time BONUS to condition us to book online. So its end does not upset me.
Also, earning points on F&B on award stays and counting award stays toward status are UPvaluations!
The only thing I call a DEvaluation is the new 70K Category 7.
The 2000-point booking bonus is just that, a limited-time BONUS to condition us to book online. So its end does not upset me.
Also, earning points on F&B on award stays and counting award stays toward status are UPvaluations!
The only thing I call a DEvaluation is the new 70K Category 7.
Feb 19, 2014, 9:48 am
#38
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
It's less bad than I warned about here.
Feb 19, 2014, 9:57 am
#39
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
I suspect that Happy is right in the thread in Fassy's link & that the Webpage is mis-worded. After all, it's a contradiction as is to say that the new rates are effective March 15 & apply to made on or after May 1, 2014. So I think they mean "stays on or after May 1, 2014, even if booked now."
Feb 19, 2014, 10:12 am
#40
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
I notice that 2 hotels in/near Sochi, Russia are falling in category, as the Olympics end!
The 2000-point booking bonus is just that, a limited-time BONUS to condition us to book online. So its end does not upset me.
Also, earning points on F&B on award stays and counting award stays toward status are UPvaluations!
The only thing I call a DEvaluation is the new 70K Category 7.
The 2000-point booking bonus is just that, a limited-time BONUS to condition us to book online. So its end does not upset me.
Also, earning points on F&B on award stays and counting award stays toward status are UPvaluations!
The only thing I call a DEvaluation is the new 70K Category 7.
It's less bad than I warned about here.
That my friend, is where I see what Club Carlson would go in releasing award rooms. They have the models of HHonors and SPG to go by. Though in HHonors case, sometimes the premium rooms would be CHEAPER than standard rooms. Personally we have taken advantage of such a few times. However I do not see Club Carlson would behave like this - giving the Paris properties have zeroed out all standard rooms for the dates I have been looking at in the past few weeks. The Champs location had absolutely no rooms available for almost the whole October. Suddenly now there are 75K premium rooms available across all 3 properties after the announcement. Co-incident? I think NOT!
Feb 19, 2014, 10:19 am
#42
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: New York
Programs: AA, WN, BA, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold, Club Carlson Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 313
It's less bad than I warned about here.
I don't care about the elimination of the online booking bonus or the other updates (both positives and negatives), but the category changes and the new category 7 does not bode well for the future.
Feb 19, 2014, 10:29 am
#43
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Gold-MM, AA Gold-MM, F9-Silver, Hyatt Something, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,393
Club Carlson Program Changes eff. Mar 15, 2014
The cat 2 to cat 3 diff had always been huge. It almost doubles right there. And (not coincidentally?) that's where the biggest number of props going up a cat are. Really sucks.
The CC award chart makes little sense. Silly Podunk CIS props at cat 4 and then major European props at cat 5.
But hey, I guess there can be opportunity in chaos.
The CC award chart makes little sense. Silly Podunk CIS props at cat 4 and then major European props at cat 5.
But hey, I guess there can be opportunity in chaos.
Feb 19, 2014, 10:50 am
#44
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: AA EXP, DL-Plat, WN-CP | Hotels: Choice-Gld, IHG-Plt, Rad-Gld, HH-Dia, Hyatt-Glob, Marriott-LtPlt
Posts: 2,889
Feb 19, 2014, 10:54 am
#45
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New York City
Programs: AA P; Marriott G; Hertz 5*; Club Carlson G; IHG P;
Posts: 84
The new level increase is absurd. The rate for redemption jumps by 40%. No other hotel program his this wide of margin for their top 2 levels.
I was thinking about picking up the US Bank card on my next AOR, but who knows now. That 85K bonus doesn't go that far anymore.
I was thinking about picking up the US Bank card on my next AOR, but who knows now. That 85K bonus doesn't go that far anymore.