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Old May 15, 2014, 11:28 pm
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1 hour connection time in YYZ

I arrive in YYZ from NYC on AA3337 (arrive 8:44am).
I need to catch DL4062 on the same day (depart 9:45am). Leaves me 1 hour connection. Can this be done? I will only have carryon luggage.
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Old May 16, 2014, 3:45 am
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Connection in YYZ - transit time

I would guess that no. Now the usual questions, are both legs are on a single ticket, consequences if you do not make the connection etc.

I was in the same position last week and wanted to post my experience. I had read of horror stories about queues and was prepared with a list of alternative flights if I did miss my connection (allowed myself 2:30 hours incoming from Europe connecting to an internal flight).

I made it in an hour, but was exceptionally lucky. Arriving YYZ Friday early afternoon.

1. Disembarking the plane - sidelined by immigration for questioning (good start) - they were fast and professional though.
2. CBSA - NO queue at all - straight through.
3. Luggage arrived after about 30 minutes
4. Customs - zero queue. Dropped off luggage.
4. Security - 20 minutes. Apparently the security upstairs (non-interconnecting) had a much shorter queue, but the security staff only thought to bring it up after someone in a rush asked...

So about 60 minutes from touchdown to departure gate, but I think this was exceptional, with no delay at all at CBSA and customs.

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Old May 16, 2014, 6:02 am
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I would guess that no. Now the usual questions, are both legs are on a single ticket, consequences if you do not make the connection etc.

I was in the same position last week and wanted to post my experience. I had read of horror stories about queues and was prepared with a list of alternative flights if I did miss my connection (allowed myself 2:30 hours incoming from Europe connecting to an internal flight).

I made it in an hour, but was exceptionally lucky. Arriving YYZ Friday early afternoon.

1. Disembarking the plane - sidelined by immigration for questioning (good start) - they were fast and professional though.
2. CBSA - NO queue at all - straight through.
3. Luggage arrived after about 30 minutes
4. Customs - zero queue. Dropped off luggage.
4. Security - 20 minutes. Apparently the security upstairs (non-interconnecting) had a much shorter queue, but the security staff only thought to bring it up after someone in a rush asked...

So about 60 minutes from touchdown to departure gate, but I think this was exceptional, with no delay at all at CBSA and customs.

D.
But you had to waste time picking up luggage and dropping it off again for next flight. I will have only carryon.
Do i need to go thru customs/immigrations/or security again?
I need to deboard plane from AA and get to DL flight. What do people think?
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Old May 16, 2014, 6:14 am
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Originally Posted by FAllWay
But you had to waste time picking up luggage and dropping it off again for next flight. I will have only carryon.
Do i need to go thru customs/immigrations/or security again?
I need to deboard plane from AA and get to DL flight. What do people think?
Unless you have NEXUS and are familiar with YYZ T3, I would not recommend it. You have to walk a long way to clear Canadian customs, then go upstairs and clear US customs and security. Perhaps you'll get lucky and lines will be short and everything will be on time. But I would NOT do it.
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Old May 16, 2014, 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by FAllWay
But you had to waste time picking up luggage and dropping it off again for next flight. I will have only carryon.
Do i need to go thru customs/immigrations/or security again?
I need to deboard plane from AA and get to DL flight. What do people think?
You didn't say if you were on 1-ticket (you'll be protected anyway NYC-YYZ-DTW) or 2-tickets (GOOD LUCK)

Do you need to get your DL boarding pass?

AA & DL both use Terminal 3, so you should be okay IF
- no delay leaving from NYC <-- quite normal
- no delay in immigration into Canada
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Old May 16, 2014, 6:35 am
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You didn't say if you were on 1-ticket (you'll be protected anyway NYC-YYZ-DTW) or 2-tickets (GOOD LUCK)

Do you need to get your DL boarding pass?

AA & DL both use Terminal 3, so you should be okay IF
- no delay leaving from NYC <-- quite normal
- no delay in immigration into Canada
Its two tix. DL said I can print boarding pass online or use their app.
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Old May 16, 2014, 6:59 am
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I have never had to connect at YYZ T3 but had many arrivals and departures.

It is doable but stars have to line up. All factors making this possible have been posted upthread.

You did not tell us which day of the week your morning connection is on. It makes a difference. US bound CBP and CATSA tends to be longers lines on Monday mornings.
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Old May 16, 2014, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by FAllWay
I arrive in YYZ from NYC on AA3337 (arrive 8:44am).
I need to catch DL4062 on the same day (depart 9:45am). Leaves me 1 hour connection. Can this be done? I will only have carryon luggage.
I think it is very challenging. Your connection time is not the actual time. You need to be at the gate 20 minutes ahead. You should call Delta and ask if they can have someone help you through or be prepared to ask to cut ahead in the lines if they are long - and apologize a lot.
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Old May 16, 2014, 3:14 pm
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You should call Delta and ask if they can have someone help you through ...
Seriously? Why would Delta help OP through any part of this? Do you think they have extra staff just standing around at YYZ waiting to escort mileage runners thru security/customs, etc...?
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Old May 16, 2014, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tentseller
I have never had to connect at YYZ T3 but had many arrivals and departures.

It is doable but stars have to line up. All factors making this possible have been posted upthread.

You did not tell us which day of the week your morning connection is on. It makes a difference. US bound CBP and CATSA tends to be longers lines on Monday mornings.
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Old May 17, 2014, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by FAllWay
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You do have a chance. If it was Monday I would bet the house against you.
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Old May 17, 2014, 8:07 am
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So even tho i dont need to pickup/drop off luggage (since i only have carryon) and i will already have my boarding pass, i still need to go thru immigration or security once I get to YYZ?
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Old May 17, 2014, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by FAllWay
So even tho i dont need to pickup/drop off luggage (since i only have carryon) and i will already have my boarding pass, i still need to go thru immigration or security once I get to YYZ?
Since you are flying into and out of T3, you need to do:
  1. arrival Canadian immigration/custom
  2. departure US immigration/customs
  3. CATSA flight security
in that order.

T1 has a fast-track to US bound immigration without entering Canada. There is still a CBSA document check vs full entry immigration.

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Old May 20, 2014, 10:48 am
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This would be an illegitimate routing (i.e., cabotage) if booked on one ticket - so I doubt DL will be particularly helpful if you miss the connection.

As has been previously mentioned, this is cutting it very close. If you were flying AC from LGA, I'd suggest getting to the airport early and asking to get bumped to an earlier flight, as they're pretty accommodating on this route. However, you seem to be on the day's first AA flight to YYZ, so that isn't an option.

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Old May 21, 2014, 8:23 am
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Thanks for all your feedbacks. I went with the safer route or booking into YYZ the previous night.
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