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Old Oct 29, 2014, 5:49 pm
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Please help me find LAX to Paris

Essentially, my girlfriend and I have planned a trip to Europe next summer where we will be traveling through multiple countries. We'd like to arrive in Paris first, but I wouldn't mind connector flights (or whatever it's called) as long as I can find a cheap European domestic flight through RyanAir to Paris where we would start our journey.

There's a deal going on with WOW airlines where I could fly from Boston to Iceland for $400 each roundtrip for my girlfriend and I. Which is amazing; however, flights from LAX to Boston during that time period are $370 roundtrip each (cheapest I could find). Then, I would have to find a roundtrip flight from Croatia (last destination) to Iceland and the total comes out to a little more than $1150 per person which is more than the direct flights that I found.


We are flexible in our travel times (anything after May 26th up to June 1st).
Our return time would have to be the second week of August (preferably between August 10-14th)

The cheapest direct flight I found from LAX to Paris is $1004 roundtrip per person. Is this a lot considering it's end of May/beginning of June or is it expected. If so, I might as well book it now if the prices won't fluctuate.

So far, I've checked practically every airline site from Sky Scanner to Iceland Air to WOW airline, to Norweigan to Air Berlin, Lufthansa, Kayak, and matrix ITA software.
And intraeuropean flights I checked using ryanair and easyjet.

So, how are people finding such crazy good prices?!

Thx
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 7:50 pm
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 8:29 pm
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Keep in mind that you're planning to travel to Europe during the peak summer travel season, which in the U.S. runs roughly from the Memorial Day holiday until the Labor Day holiday, when most kids are out of school and is the one time of the year that many families can schedule a European vacation.

I think that $1K is a decent price for peak summer travel. If/when it goes lower than that for your dates, it probably won't be by much, but as summer approaches, it will get much higher than that! On the other hand, it's probably not necessary to buy this early to get that price, and airline change fees can be considerable ($300+), so it might pay to wait until early next year to firm up your plans.
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 9:09 pm
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Other options for the OP are checking Hotwire's "opaque" fares, and submitting a bid via Priceline's "name your own price" option. However, both of these options require the traveler to arrive at and return from the same European city.
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 10:28 pm
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Keep in mind that you're planning to travel to Europe during the peak summer travel season, which in the U.S. runs roughly from the Memorial Day holiday until the Labor Day holiday, when most kids are out of school and is the one time of the year that many families can schedule a European vacation.

I think that $1K is a decent price for peak summer travel. If/when it goes lower than that for your dates, it probably won't be by much, but as summer approaches, it will get much higher than that! On the other hand, it's probably not necessary to buy this early to get that price, and airline change fees can be considerable ($300+), so it might pay to wait until early next year to firm up your plans.
So, you're saying I can get it as low as $700 roundtrip for one ticket? How likely is this?
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelForALiving
So, you're saying I can get it as low as $700 roundtrip for one ticket? How likely is this?
That's not what he said, and it's not likely. If you can find a RT from US to Europe for $1000 you are doing pretty well that time of year.
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Airline Change Fees isn't a discount...

Originally Posted by TravelForALiving
Originally Posted by mikew99
... and airline change fees can be considerable ($300+), so it might pay to wait until early next year to firm up your plans.
So, you're saying I can get it as low as $700 roundtrip for one ticket? How likely is this?
How did you come up with the $700 scenario?

Airline change fees is the fee you have to pay up to the airline whenever you change your itinerary (aka ticket) on top of the already-paid fare, if it's a changeable ticket. It's NOT the discount you'll get buying a tix, so you can't get a cheaper ticket from $1004 to $704.
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelForALiving
So, you're saying I can get it as low as $700 roundtrip for one ticket? How likely is this?
Originally Posted by Doc Savage
That's not what he said, and it's not likely. If you can find a RT from US to Europe for $1000 you are doing pretty well that time of year.
Sorry for the confusion, but I simply wanted to caution you about one risk of buying your ticket too far in advance. If you buy your ticket right now and need to voluntarily change it -- even by only a day -- you will likely have to pay additional change fees that can amount to several hundred dollars, which will eat up any savings you thought you were getting by purchasing your ticket in advance.

On the other hand, if you are 100% certain of your plans, $1000 for peak summer travel is a very reasonable price.
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 3:42 pm
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It may be appropriate to pay for your airfare this time, but in the future you might consider planning ahead in order to fly free, or nearly free.

My wife and I just booked a roundtrip from the West Coast to Europe going to Dublin, and leaving from Rome, in September 2015. We are paying about $347 for both of us roundtrip, or $174 per person, using airline miles typically acquired through credit card bonuses and spending. I purposefully chose to spend a bit more rather than spend the bare minimum, in order to improve the flights we can use.

Right now, we have already accumulated the miles we expect we will need for our subsequent trip to Europe, in 2016, and thus can keep working on our 2017 European trip.

As you can see, it is our expectation to visit Europe or another distant destination at least once annually...without buying an airline ticket.

I might add that the same applies to domestic air flights. We are almost at the point where we almost never buy an airfare ticket. We are also using hotel points creatively where we can.

Another word of advice: Paris is a very popular tourist destination. Sometimes it makes sense to fly to London, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, or Brussels, and then rely on a train connection to get to Paris. Award tickets to Paris seem much more difficult to obtain than adjacent European cities. If you're paying for a ticket, check out carriers like Air Berlin which serves LAX. They may not go directly to Paris, but they get close enough.

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Old Oct 30, 2014, 4:36 pm
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Well, I officially booked.
I found a great deal from SF (which is closer) to Sweden using Norwegian airlines and then from Sweden to France to begin our backpacking trip. At this point, we'd end our journey in August and travel really cheaply from Croatia to Denmark and from Denmark to Florida.
Total travel time to Paris: 14 hours after a 1 day layover in Sweden which is nice.
Total travel time from Croatia to Denmark is 2 hours and then we'd stay the night in Copenhagen and from there to Florida is a 10 hour flight. We'll stay 2 nights exploring Miami and Ft. Lauderdale and now I just have to find a flight from Fort. Lauderdale to Los Angeles but I think it's better to wait to book that flight.

So far, all in all, my total accumulates to $1,350 for flying to Europe and back.
We'll also be getting back $500 each from Barclay Elite Mastercard Arrival Plus edition for spending a certain amount of money on our travel. So, basically, we're looking at a fairly cheap flight
Technically I could purchase a flight right now from Florida to LAX for about $350 one way for two people. However, that seems a little unreasonable to me. Let me know if I am wrong though.

How do you guys recommend booking Florida to LAX. I plan on waiting to buy a domestic flight because they are generally cheapest 6-8 weeks before departure. So, when that time comes, how do you guys find such good domestic USA flights? I know a lot of you get certain airline points accumulated and basically splurge on a really expensive trip but this is our first trip so that's not really possible at the moment until we are seasoned travelers.

Thanks a lot guys. I definitely put in the extra work because you guys let me know that there's better deals out there
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Reindeerflame
It may be appropriate to pay for your airfare this time, but in the future you might consider planning ahead in order to fly free, or nearly free.

My wife and I just booked a roundtrip from the West Coast to Europe going to Dublin, and leaving from Rome, in September 2015. We are paying about $347 for both of us roundtrip, or $174 per person, using airline miles typically acquired through credit card bonuses and spending. I purposefully chose to spend a bit more rather than spend the bare minimum, in order to improve the flights we can use.

Right now, we have already accumulated the miles we expect we will need for our subsequent trip to Europe, in 2016, and thus can keep working on our 2017 European trip.

As you can see, it is our expectation to visit Europe or another distant destination at least once annually...without buying an airline ticket.

I might add that the same applies to domestic air flights. We are almost at the point where we almost never buy an airfare ticket. We are also using hotel points creatively where we can.

Another word of advice: Paris is a very popular tourist destination. Sometimes it makes sense to fly to London, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, or Brussels, and then rely on a train connection to get to Paris. Award tickets to Paris seem much more difficult to obtain than adjacent European cities. If you're paying for a ticket, check out carriers like Air Berlin which serves LAX. They may not go directly to Paris, but they get close enough.
If you don't mind me asking, which carrier or provider do you accumulate your points with? That seems like an awesome deal. I only got some Norwegian airline reward points for this flight and cash back from our credit card company that we booked with.
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelForALiving
How do you guys recommend booking Florida to LAX. I plan on waiting to buy a domestic flight because they are generally cheapest 6-8 weeks before departure.
Be sure to check Mileage Runs forum here on FT. Lots of deals get posted, like my $167 DFW-LAX tomorrow Or the current $100 DFW-PHX which I don't need, as I've been to Phoenix twice this year already

TheFlightDeal.com is also very good, and set up price alerts with several OTAs like Orbitz and Travelocity. Some deals may not apply to dates that far out, but at least you'll keep up with fares.

But unless you use something like airBnB, you may be in for a shock if you're staying overnight in Scandinavia
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 2:47 am
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Be sure to check Mileage Runs forum here on FT. Lots of deals get posted, like my $167 DFW-LAX tomorrow Or the current $100 DFW-PHX which I don't need, as I've been to Phoenix twice this year already

TheFlightDeal.com is also very good, and set up price alerts with several OTAs like Orbitz and Travelocity. Some deals may not apply to dates that far out, but at least you'll keep up with fares.

But unless you use something like airBnB, you may be in for a shock if you're staying overnight in Scandinavia
Ebola, man

I'll definitely check that out, thank you.

I just realized how expensive it is haha
Thankfully, I have a friend that lives there that's trying to hook me up with an accommodation.
Even airBnB is lingering in the $100 range per night and the transportation mechanisms within the country are expensive as well. But it's an experience I hopefully won't regret as there's a lot of rich history and culture on those Scandinavian countries
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by TravelForALiving
If you don't mind me asking, which carrier or provider do you accumulate your points with? That seems like an awesome deal. I only got some Norwegian airline reward points for this flight and cash back from our credit card company that we booked with.
I personally started out with United as a primary carrier, but now take full advantage of any program that offers opportunities, including American, US Air, Southwest, Amtrak and others. For our 2015 European trip, we will be using United miles to get to Dublin on United and Aer Lingus, and to get back from Rome using Air Canada, and plan to use IHG (Holiday Inn) and Club Carlson (Radisson) points for some of our hotel stays. I also tend to book award travel literally the minute that seats are made available, usually about 11 months in advance, although others will say that waiting a bit longer can have advantages. My United awards were booked right at midnight CDT, or 10pm PDT, 337 days in advance. We also used one-way awards, meaning that there is no need to wait until the requisite time ahead of the return leg of the trip. In 2014, we used AA miles to get to Oslo, Norway, and to return from Zurich, on Air Berlin.

You will find that Flyertalk is an excellent resource, with experts on just about any travel topic. Following a few threads here and there will provide a great education. It helps to have some income that will allow for credit card applications to be approved. It's a misnomer that one needs to fly frequently for business to be a "frequent flyer"; there is a myriad of other ways to accumulate miles, whether through credit card application bonuses, credit card spending, filing out surveys, dining at certain establishments, purchasing merchandise from commonly-known vendors through various airline portals, and buying flowers.

Happy travels!
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 10:58 am
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Try Norwegian airlines

Try pricing out of lax online at www.norwegian.com
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