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Sep 5, 2013, 11:09 am

AtlantaX

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Join Date: Jan 2005

Location: Atlanta, GA

Programs: Delta PM, National Executive Elite, Avis First, Starwood Lifetime Platinum

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Avis First vs National Executive Elite

After years of being National Executive Elite, my company is switching me to Avis. I got Avis to match my tier to Avis First after showing my Exec Elite status.

I was wondering if anyone has any comments on the difference? What I should expect? Is First better than natlExecElite? Same?

Any insight on what I'm in for would be helpful.

Thanks.

Sep 5, 2013, 11:37 am

sanctified50

Join Date: Feb 2008

Programs: National Executive Elite, Hertz PC, Avis CC, Continental Onepass

Posts: 451

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantaX

Avis First is no where close to National EE unless you rent at a lot of smaller airports in which case they might be about the same. The rewards program with Avis First is also not even to close as National's reward program. Also you will always get your National upgrades where as Avis is based on availability.

Sep 5, 2013, 1:27 pm

lardiop

Join Date: May 2008

Location: YYZ

Programs: Avis CHM, Hertz Plat, National EE, SPG Plat, Hyatt Diamond, Le Club Plat, CX Gold

Posts: 367

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantaX

Definitely a big downgrade. See if your account manager can swing a few President or Chairman memberships.

If you're stuck with First:

Get to know the Avis staff at the locations you frequent most often.
Remember that any vehicle can be assigned to anyone at any time. Yes, you might have booked a mid-size or full-size, but remember the latitude that agents have with vehicle assignments. This is especially true on days where they are short cars.
Don't like what you were pre-assigned? Find 2 or 3 cars you would drive, remember the spot numbers, and go into the Preferred Booth. Be nice.

Sep 7, 2013, 10:03 pm

drzoidberg

Join Date: May 2008

Posts: 4,396

Sorry to hear the news...

Sep 8, 2013, 8:45 am

bkafrick

Join Date: Dec 2007

Location: SYR

Programs: US/AA-Platinum, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Gold, AVIS-Presidents Club, National-Executive Elite

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lardiop

[*]Don't like what you were pre-assigned? Find 2 or 3 cars you would drive, remember the spot numbers, and go into the Preferred Booth. Be nice.

This might be the single best advice ever given on this forum. Do it every time you don't like your car, and I promise you'll get one of the options you do like.

Sep 8, 2013, 11:37 am

LauraTR

Join Date: Jun 2012

Location: GRB

Programs: Delta - DM/ 2MM, HHonors - DM, Marriott - PM, AVIS - CM

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[QUOTE=lardiop;21394540]Definitely a big downgrade. See if your account manager can swing a few President or Chairman memberships.

Except that even with the CM membership, you still have to fight for what you want. I find no value in having it whatsoever.

sanctified50's quote was spot on.

Sep 8, 2013, 6:37 pm

bkafrick

Join Date: Dec 2007

Location: SYR

Programs: US/AA-Platinum, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Gold, AVIS-Presidents Club, National-Executive Elite

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Originally Posted by LauraTR

Except that even with the CM membership, you still have to fight for what you want. I find no value in having it whatsoever.

No value whatsoever? None? Zilch? Zero? Nada?

Sep 9, 2013, 7:22 am

LauraTR

Join Date: Jun 2012

Location: GRB

Programs: Delta - DM/ 2MM, HHonors - DM, Marriott - PM, AVIS - CM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bkafrick

No value whatsoever? None? Zilch? Zero? Nada?

Let me think about that and I'll get back to you. Nothing comes to mind right now.

Sep 9, 2013, 9:56 am

AtlantaX

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Join Date: Jan 2005

Location: Atlanta, GA

Programs: Delta PM, National Executive Elite, Avis First, Starwood Lifetime Platinum

Posts: 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkafrick

No value whatsoever? None? Zilch? Zero? Nada?

Noticed in your profile that you are AVIS - President's Club.

So, above First, are there additional "levels" that aren't published? What benefits are associated?

After one rental, I'm unimpressed. I like the "select your own car" approach that National had.

Thanks,
Michael

Sep 9, 2013, 9:52 pm

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Critic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lardiop

Don't like what you were pre-assigned? Find 2 or 3 cars you would drive, remember the spot numbers, and go into the Preferred Booth. Be nice.

...but keep in mind that if you're at a "Select & Go" location that's gone paperless, the vehicle(s) in those spots may already be assigned to another customer. Make sure to check the "Select & Go" area; if there's a vehicle in the Upgrade row that interests you, talk to an agent - in some instances they'll give it to you at your reserved rate, since you're entitled to a free (capacity-limited) upgrade.

Sep 10, 2013, 8:40 pm

#11

bkafrick

Join Date: Dec 2007

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Programs: US/AA-Platinum, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Gold, AVIS-Presidents Club, National-Executive Elite

Posts: 2,755

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantaX

So, above First, are there additional "levels" that aren't published? What benefits are associated?

Everything you ever wanted to know:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avis/...mans-club.html

Sep 12, 2013, 12:51 am

#12

rodsren

Join Date: Mar 2012

Location: Miami BCH., FLorida

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"Avis First, President's Club & Chairman's Club"

And what are the nevefits for these. I am enterprise Gold and would like to status match (since I don't rent locally but in airport locations I am hoping they will give me agt least FIrst, maybe President's club, as I used to be select Plus I think they called it, or select reserve (now I am reLly dating myself...LOL)