MASTER THREAD: Seat and flight availability
#31
Join Date: Nov 2007
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As per expertflyer.com
#33
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Sure - hope this helps....
BA () 189 0 LHR
08/02/09 3:45 PM EWR
08/02/09 6:30 PM 777
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BA () 189 0 LHR
08/02/09 3:45 PM EWR
08/02/09 6:30 PM 777
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#34
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It is always hard. What to do?
1. Book the light load flight so at least you have the chance of an empty seat next to you and a quiet flight?
2. Book the last WT+ seat on a very busy flight with a small chance of an upgrade but the certainty of a crowded cabin...
1. Book the light load flight so at least you have the chance of an empty seat next to you and a quiet flight?
2. Book the last WT+ seat on a very busy flight with a small chance of an upgrade but the certainty of a crowded cabin...
Last edited by henkybaby; Aug 1, 2009 at 8:18 am
#35
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This might be a useful tool for anyone looking for availability. I have no idea how useful it is for finding all availability but it is free.
#36
Join Date: Apr 2008
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As always the advice is book the flight that best suits your plans. If you happen to get an OPUP - GREAT!! - if not then you get the seat you paid for!
#37
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 461
But after years of being Gold and Platinum in LY it is a bit disappointing to get along with the BA policy through which the fact that I fly transatlantic twice a month from TLV via LHR does not entitle me to a CW seat - which will stay empty anyhow if they don't upgrade their golds...
#38
Join Date: Sep 2007
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OT- Increasing fare buckets
This is a bit OT but I din't want to start a new thread.
A checked on a flight I've booked for December and have noticed that the availability in the Far bucket (M) from when I last looked 2-3 weeks ago has actually increased from 1 to 7 in Expert Flyer.
Is this a regular occurrence? I know the revenue management types fiddle with these things in order to, well... manage revenue, is it a regular occurence however or does it suggest that they are struggling to sell the plane, when it's being done over 4 months out?
It currently looks like-
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
A checked on a flight I've booked for December and have noticed that the availability in the Far bucket (M) from when I last looked 2-3 weeks ago has actually increased from 1 to 7 in Expert Flyer.
Is this a regular occurrence? I know the revenue management types fiddle with these things in order to, well... manage revenue, is it a regular occurence however or does it suggest that they are struggling to sell the plane, when it's being done over 4 months out?
It currently looks like-
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
#39
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Yes, very much so. I've been the beneficiary of this many times. Though sometimes it requires some nerve to sit tight and wait a couple of days or even weeks to see if the booking class I want goes up from 1 to 2 so I can grab those seats.
#40
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Thatcham, UK
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I'm booked on BA117 on Sept 16th and wanted to MFU my CW tickets in 1st, but ba.com says full...
yet the link above shows...
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 0 0
So all the 9s mean open right? What are fare class N and Q?
The upper deck on BAs seat map shows our 2 seats plus 1 or 2 others... does this mean it's gonna be a quiet flight or would you expect it to get busier?
yet the link above shows...
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 0 0
So all the 9s mean open right? What are fare class N and Q?
The upper deck on BAs seat map shows our 2 seats plus 1 or 2 others... does this mean it's gonna be a quiet flight or would you expect it to get busier?
#41
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[KVS Availability Tool 5.0.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA]
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LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] JFK New York John F Kennedy Int'l NY US [KJFK] WED 16 Sep 2009 | 2 Seats Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ BA 117 LHR 08:55 JFK 11:20 744 FS+ CS+ WS+ YS+ AA 115 LHR 08:30 JFK 11:00 777 FS- CS- WS- YS+ BA 175 LHR 10:25 JFK 12:55 744 FS- CS+ WS- YS- BA 179 LHR 18:10 JFK 20:40 777 FS+ CS- WS+ YS+ BA 183 LHR 20:00 JFK 22:30 744 FS+ CS+ WS+ YS+ BA 113 LHR 15:35 JFK 18:10 744 FS+ CS+ WS- YS- AA 105 LHR 11:55 JFK 14:35 777 FS- CS- WS- YS+ BA 2173 LGW 12:00 JFK 14:40 777 FS+ CS+ WS+ YS+ BA 185 LHR 10:00 EWR 12:45 777 FS+ CS+ WS+ YS+ BA 189 LHR 15:45 EWR 18:30 777 FS+ CS+ WS+ YS+ BA 115 LHR 17:00 JFK 19:45 777 FS+ CS+ WS+ YS+ AA 131 LHR 16:45 JFK 19:35 777 FS- CS- WS- YS+ AA 107 LHR 18:30 JFK 21:20 777 FS- CS- WS- YS+ AA 109 LHR 10:55 BOS 13:25 763 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 4810 BOS 15:00 LGA 16:15 ER3 AA 173 LHR 11:00 RDU 14:40 763 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 4730 RDU 15:50 LGA 17:30 ERD BA 314 LHR 13:40 CDG 16:00 320 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 121 CDG 17:50 JFK 20:10 757 BA 213 LHR 11:25 BOS 13:35 744 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 4823 BOS 16:40 LGA 18:00 ER3 BA 2464 LGW 09:00 MAD 12:30 735 FS- CS+ WS- YS- -> IB 6251 MAD 13:55 JFK 16:05 340 AA 109 LHR 10:55 BOS 13:25 763 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 4823 BOS 16:40 LGA 18:00 ER3 AA 87 LHR 10:15 ORD 12:50 777 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 366 ORD 14:10 LGA 17:25 M80 AA 173 LHR 11:00 RDU 14:40 763 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 4549 RDU 16:25 JFK 18:15 ER3 AA 173 LHR 11:00 RDU 14:40 763 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 4735 RDU 16:45 LGA 18:25 ERD AA 87 LHR 10:15 ORD 12:50 777 FS- CS- WS- YS+ -> AA 362 ORD 14:45 LGA 18:00 M80 BA 456 LHR 08:15 MAD 11:35 320 FS- CS+ WS- YS- -> IB 6251 MAD 13:55 JFK 16:05 340
#42
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Of all the tools mentioned above (KVS, expertflyer etc) which is voted the best tool to use (I dont mind paying the premium fee)
Do any of them show the different buckets per origin (i.e. US v UK availability)?
Do any of them show the different buckets per origin (i.e. US v UK availability)?
#43
Join Date: Mar 2008
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but I am looking for award/upgrade and BA does not show on the list.. what am I doing wrong
#44
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#45
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Oh ok good! Didn't know that BA doesn't show the awards but will check out the KVS now YAY!
-Christian