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Old Apr 8, 09, 1:03 pm   #1
 
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Seat shifted - 1D (USC) to 4D

I know it happens occasionally, but checking in for tonights last EDI-LHR at T-24, I found I had been shifted from my usual 1D to 4D.

Dropping a bag full of single malt at check-in just now, I was informed this was because 1D is USC - unserviceable? i.e. broken

So they knew this 24 hours ago. Which of the following facts is therefore more likely:
  • The aircraft was only allocated to the service at T-24
  • The seat was only reported USC around that time
  • An other likely reason?
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Old Apr 8, 09, 1:16 pm   #2
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  • An other likely reason?
Seat reallocation to provide additional room for special needs pax, eg. pax with impaired vision possibly travelling with guide dog?
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Old Apr 8, 09, 1:27 pm   #3
 
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I don't find the check-in staff really know why seats have been shifted. When I was last shifted, in October, it was from 10K to 11K on a 4-class 777. (Why was I in J on a horrid 4-class 777? - God only knows as I could have been in F for another 10k miles, but you live and learn).

At check-in they volunteered the information it was due to an "equipment change"; I didn't ask. When I got on board the plane was still a 4-class 777 and it still had a seat 10K. It was empty.

I asked the Purser politely, in the middle of the flight, if he had any idea why I'd been moved. He hadn't, and he believed seat 10K to be in perfect working order. Seat 10J was occupied. I didn't stare too hard but the occupant didn't look like he needed extra space. Maybe his guide dog was curled up quietly in 10K throughout the flight. What a nice thought.
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Old Apr 10, 09, 2:46 pm   #4
 
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I know it happens occasionally, but checking in for tonights last EDI-LHR at T-24, I found I had been shifted from my usual 1D to 4D.

Dropping a bag full of single malt at check-in just now, I was informed this was because 1D is USC - unserviceable? i.e. broken

So they knew this 24 hours ago. Which of the following facts is therefore more likely:
  • The aircraft was only allocated to the service at T-24
  • The seat was only reported USC around that time
  • An other likely reason?
Update: on board, all six right-hand seats in rows 1 and 2 were covered with a 'do not use' cotton sack. Seat 1D was fully reclined, hence both rows were out of action. Luckily, the flight was only 80% occupied
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Old Apr 10, 09, 3:09 pm   #5
 
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Update: on board, all six right-hand seats in rows 1 and 2 were covered with a 'do not use' cotton sack. Seat 1D was fully reclined, hence both rows were out of action. Luckily, the flight was only 80% occupied
Yup... so someone broke 1D rendering the row and the row behind unusable.

Out of interest... on Row 1 DEF, did you notice if there was a small Red disk on the end panel of the seats? About the size of a 10p piece.
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Old Apr 10, 09, 11:29 pm   #6
 
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Red disc

Is that the 'Polished Gold' ejection seat button?
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Old Apr 11, 09, 1:04 am   #7
 
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Yup... so someone broke 1D rendering the row and the row behind unusable.

Out of interest... on Row 1 DEF, did you notice if there was a small Red disk on the end panel of the seats? About the size of a 10p piece.
no - but now I'm intrigued
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Old Apr 11, 09, 4:56 am   #8
 
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Is that the 'Polished Gold' ejection seat button?
Yes... reserved for certain Golds who are trying to appear hip and trendy by naming them self in the vein of Apple Mac...
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Old Apr 11, 09, 4:58 am   #9
 
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no - but now I'm intrigued
I only ask, as if 1D was broken, then E+F would still be useable... 2DEF are totally useless as escape from that full row of seats would be compromised in an evacuation.

The Red Disc is the indication that the row of seats are "Locked" which was more relevant in the good old days of Club Conversion. However, if the incident which broke 1D had enough force, it may have broken the locking mechanism which would explain why 1EF were also blocked out. That was all.

Thanks though!
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Old Apr 11, 09, 6:03 am   #10
 
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Oh, found out by bing bong. I am a mac addict, but..... iThink is actually non apple business software.
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Old Apr 11, 09, 6:10 am   #11
 
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Oh, found out by bing bong. I am a mac addict, but..... iThink is actually non apple business software.
Ok Mr. IThink...

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Old Apr 11, 09, 9:20 am   #12
 
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Happened to me this morning EDI-LGW, 3 of us shifted from 1D, 1E and 1F to 10D, 10E and 10F, possibly the worst seats on a 737-400.

Of course our original row 1 seats which I was told were 'occupied' were empty until after take off when 1D and 1F were quickly taken by pax from the first few rows.

Needless to say I was delighted! E-mail has already gone to customer services.
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Old Apr 11, 09, 9:58 am   #13
 
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Happened to me this morning EDI-LGW, 3 of us shifted from 1D, 1E and 1F to 10D, 10E and 10F, possibly the worst seats on a 737-400.

Of course our original row 1 seats which I was told were 'occupied' were empty until after take off when 1D and 1F were quickly taken by pax from the first few rows.

Needless to say I was delighted! E-mail has already gone to customer services.
Did you ask the crew why the seats were blocked for take off?

And were the passengers told to move back to their original seats for landing or at any point?
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Old Apr 11, 09, 10:23 am   #14
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Happened to me this morning EDI-LGW, 3 of us shifted from 1D, 1E and 1F to 10D, 10E and 10F, possibly the worst seats on a 737-400.

Of course our original row 1 seats which I was told were 'occupied' were empty until after take off when 1D and 1F were quickly taken by pax from the first few rows.

Needless to say I was delighted! E-mail has already gone to customer services.
Was your flight full?

If not, then the first few rows of seats are often blocked for allocation as this is required for aircraft trim. Passengers have to sit further back for take off but are allowed to move forward after that. Perhaps this was the situation in your case (being a weekend EDI-LGW it probably was quite empty).

I would imagine CS will write back to you advising that no seat is confirmed and BA reserve the right to move any person from their seat.
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Did you ask the crew why the seats were blocked for take off?

No - I wasn't in the best of humour!

And were the passengers told to move back to their original seats for landing or at any point?
No - they stayed there until we reached the gate at LGW
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