AMS-LHR BA plane engine problem 12/9/17
Sep 13, 2017, 6:50 pm
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Sep 14, 2017, 1:09 am
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Plane was A321 so probably CFM56, which is a highly reliable engine (V2500 isn't bad either though), as a regular flier I'll sleep much more soundly thinking that ground crew didn't have ability to do a full strip on an engine post bird-strike therefore declared the engine safe to the best of their ability, vs the possibility that the engine spontaneously failed. Quite possible that the engine was fine post bird strike and some tooling was left in post inspection (if it was a 4 hr job they'd have had all the kit out!), obviouly will be investigated.
Sep 14, 2017, 1:18 am
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Sep 14, 2017, 1:44 am
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This appears to be the cost of being competitive, if we demand cheap and affordable fares then something has to give.
Sep 14, 2017, 1:51 am
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Threads like these really don't benefit from knee-jerk interjections of "wild accusations", and being "insulting".
As we are, it appears a bird-struck engine failed on its next flight. Time will tell whether these events are linked. We can discuss the probabilities, sensibly.
Sep 14, 2017, 2:14 am
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Some unhappy folk out there: https://twitter.com/hashtag/BA433?src=hash
Sep 14, 2017, 2:16 am
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A passenger video showed sparks flying off the engine.
The aircraft had departed with a delay of about 4 hours following arrival in Amsterdam on schedule.
Passengers reported they were told the aircraft had received a bird strike into the right hand engine on arrival into Amsterdam, the engine had been inspected and cleaned causing the delay. After departure there was a loud bang, sparks were seen flying off the engine, and they returned to Amsterdam."
A passenger video showed sparks flying off the engine.
The aircraft had departed with a delay of about 4 hours following arrival in Amsterdam on schedule.
Passengers reported they were told the aircraft had received a bird strike into the right hand engine on arrival into Amsterdam, the engine had been inspected and cleaned causing the delay. After departure there was a loud bang, sparks were seen flying off the engine, and they returned to Amsterdam."
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Sep 14, 2017, 2:19 am
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Always amuses me how these threads flame up so quickly (excuse pun).
This is an internet chat room and of course people will debate the probabilities. In this case it seems an engine suffered a bird strike on landing, was delayed 4 hours to be cleaned out, then failed on take off on next flight.
Of course it may just be a remarkable coincidence and extreme bad luck for BA. Who knows if we will ever find out.
As for the rest of it, and the stories of passengers being left to fend for themselves, fairly typical these days and isn't that par for low cost operators? Perhaps BA will try and shave a few quid off travellers hotel bills to save a bit of cash.
This is an internet chat room and of course people will debate the probabilities. In this case it seems an engine suffered a bird strike on landing, was delayed 4 hours to be cleaned out, then failed on take off on next flight.
Of course it may just be a remarkable coincidence and extreme bad luck for BA. Who knows if we will ever find out.
As for the rest of it, and the stories of passengers being left to fend for themselves, fairly typical these days and isn't that par for low cost operators? Perhaps BA will try and shave a few quid off travellers hotel bills to save a bit of cash.
Sep 14, 2017, 2:20 am
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Of course, it is related!
A bird strike on the inbound, the engineers clear it, then immediately the next flight it fails? That is not a coincidence!
Either the checks in place weren't thorough enough or someone messed up!
Avherald says it's the same engine, here is the text anyway:
"A British Airways Airbus A321-200, registration G-EUXM performing flight BA-433 from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to London Heathrow,EN (UK), was climbing out of Amsterdam's runway 24 when the crew declared PAN PAN PAN reporting the right hand engine (V2533) had failed. The crew requested to level off at FL070, worked the severe engine damage checklist, shut the engine down and returned to Amsterdam for a safe landing on runway 27 about 35 minutes after departure.
A passenger video showed sparks flying off the engine.
The aircraft had departed with a delay of about 4 hours following arrival in Amsterdam on schedule.
Passengers reported they were told the aircraft had received a bird strike into the right hand engine on arrival into Amsterdam, the engine had been inspected and cleaned causing the delay. After departure there was a loud bang, sparks were seen flying off the engine, and they returned to Amsterdam."
A bird strike on the inbound, the engineers clear it, then immediately the next flight it fails? That is not a coincidence!
Either the checks in place weren't thorough enough or someone messed up!
Avherald says it's the same engine, here is the text anyway:
"A British Airways Airbus A321-200, registration G-EUXM performing flight BA-433 from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to London Heathrow,EN (UK), was climbing out of Amsterdam's runway 24 when the crew declared PAN PAN PAN reporting the right hand engine (V2533) had failed. The crew requested to level off at FL070, worked the severe engine damage checklist, shut the engine down and returned to Amsterdam for a safe landing on runway 27 about 35 minutes after departure.
A passenger video showed sparks flying off the engine.
The aircraft had departed with a delay of about 4 hours following arrival in Amsterdam on schedule.
Passengers reported they were told the aircraft had received a bird strike into the right hand engine on arrival into Amsterdam, the engine had been inspected and cleaned causing the delay. After departure there was a loud bang, sparks were seen flying off the engine, and they returned to Amsterdam."
Sep 14, 2017, 2:25 am
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Fortunately the CAA looks at the facts and does not jump to conclusions.
Sep 14, 2017, 2:27 am
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Also keeping track of the MIA and MCO feeds over this weekend I've come to realise that most people traveling have no idea what is involved in air travel. For example the person that complained to MIA that his flight was cancelled even though the airport car parks were open
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