KARFA

See here for a very experienced BA CC comment on a previous thread which shows it is only for take off and landing where the person in an exit row needs to meet the criteria

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28147836-post8.html

Jane42

You must be a non-disabled adult in full fitness and able to understand printed and verbal instructions given in English.

You must be willing and able to assist in the unlikely event of an emergency evacuation.

You will be asked to confirm you meet the CAA safety requirements before you can reserve an exit row seat."

What am I not understanding here? BA's site states that you need to be non-disabled.

cgtechuk

Apologies I missed the A320 bit my comment is mainly on LongHaul Aircraft or Row 1 of the A320

Apologies Person Of Size and not Piece of .... although I have been referred to the latter a few times haha

Tafflyer

I admit to being controversial here, but a person of size is a danger to themselves as well as other passengers in the event of an evacuation. Even when not sat at an exit row, being sat in an aisle seat might prevent other passengers in that row from exiting the aircraft swiftly as well as themselves. And I say this as someone who has (had) size issues themselves.

Now, I appreciate there is no politically correct answer to this, but it is a problem which is getting more prevalent in society today. I do believe that airlines should be set limits on minimum seat width and minimum leg space to force humane treatment of passengers. Airlines will never self-regulate these issues.

Can I help you

Correct.

cgtechuk

This is something that I could see a lawsuit / end up a political nightmare that the Daily Mail would love so I agree would never get done.

I as someone who was very heavy agree that it isn't fair to pay for a seat and have someone else splling out into yours. I always travelled with my wife and she always sat in the middle seat to prevent this but I agree with you.

RGS5526

My first reaction to "POS" was "point of sale", which didn't seem to fit the context at all ...

We all have a size, whether it be large, medium of minuscule, so can we refrain from using two levels of ambiguity in an attempt to avoid hurting the feelings of those who are ashamed of their own obesity.

corporate-wage-slave

My understanding, confirmed by CIHY, is that the restrictions on the exit row seats apply purely for taxi, take off and landing. During the cruise children, adults of all shapes and sizes can use these seats, on the basis that if there was an emergency at that height there would normally be 10 or 15 minutes - and usually a lot more - before any sort of landing could be be made. This is why there isn't a detailed explanation of the Brace position in the safety video (e.g. about weak and strong hands) since if there was a problem the view is that cabin crew would have the time to explain this more clearly.

Very, very occasionally I've seen people be moved into exit row seats pro-actively by cabin crew: one factor to bear in mind is that it sometimes allows larger people. or those with mobility issues, to get to the aisle and thereby to the WC in a way that other seats cannot facilitate. I wouldn't say this happens that frequently.

V10

I've actually moved from a row 5 window seat (CE) to row 28 (A321 ET), following a discussion with the BA ground staff where it was suggested that I would not be able to get off the aircraft quickly in the event of an emergency due to the disabled passenger sat in the aisle seat.

YorkieFlyer

So if I can summarise the facts as I see them?
The BA and CAA websites advise that emergency exit seats should only be occupied by able bodied passengers for the full duration of the flight yet the actual CAA regulation and BA sop doesn't?

KARFA

No, the CAA and BA rules say the exit rows need to be occupied by passengers fitting the criteria during take-off and landing only. At other points in the flight anyone can sit there.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

Different audiences. The CAA public website is intended as information for passengers. Ordinarily, a passenger selecting an exit row is doing so for the duration of the flight, including taxi, takeoff and landing. So the website is phrased in those terms... to exclude ineligible pax from selecting those seats.

It would be impractical for passengers to reserve exit rows only for the actual cruise phase of flight, but sit elsewhere for critical stages. Alternatively, in many cases, flights might be full and it's not possible for pax to move around, so the seat selected during check-in must be the one occupied for the entire flight. Ineligible pax are therefore excluded from selecting exit rows.

Operating procedures, and regulations affecting operations are phrased for airlines and crew. Those may permit the movement of pax around the cabin, including to exit rows during non-critical phases of flight. But they are designed as guidance for crew, not passengers, in the context of managing the flight.

AlanA

I think that applies to the original poster and his Obesity comments "Cannot see round"

YorkieFlyer

that was an attempt to introduce a little humour, I could equally have asked who ate all the pies from the Buy On Board😀

frank_poulankh

Nobody. None were loaded