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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by timcjp
Hi, here are the seat maps that I see on EF (outbound first) and also the current loads.

Regards
Tim
Superb thankyou!
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by timcjp
Hi

Here you go (numbers are US point of sale):

BA292
F9 A9 J9 C9 D7 R7 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M6 L3 V2 S2 N0 Q0 O0 G9

BA2591
J9 C7 D3 R2 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N7 Q0 O0 S0 G0

BA293
F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W8 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

thank you so much! They've opened 1 F seat for avios for BA293, and of course i need two. #sigh .
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 7:11 pm
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Can someone please post the stats for BA 286 SFO-LHR Jul 10, 2017 please.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 7:20 am
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Please could someone tell me the load in first on BA80 MCT - LHR on 20th Nov. Previously it has been a 777 and now is showing 789 on the BA app- hence less seats available in first.

Thanks in advance
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 7:36 am
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Both with USA PoS.

Originally Posted by winston vickers
Can someone please post the stats for BA 286 SFO-LHR Jul 10, 2017 please.
F8 A7 J9 C4 D1 R0 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S8 N4 Q0 O0 G9

Originally Posted by flygirl16
Please could someone tell me the load in first on BA80 MCT - LHR on 20th Nov. Previously it has been a 777 and now is showing 789 on the BA app- hence less seats available in first.

Thanks in advance
F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
Both with USA PoS.



F8 A7 J9 C4 D1 R0 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S8 N4 Q0 O0 G9



F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Many thanks
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 1:52 pm
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My thanks as well.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Planning to fly On BA138 in F on August 4th.

What is the F load? Can someone check if the window seats 1A/K and 2A/K are blocked or taken?
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by bowzer91
Planning to fly On BA138 in F on August 4th.

What is the F load? Can someone check if the window seats 1A/K and 2A/K are blocked or taken?
UK POS:

BA 138 0 BOM
08/04/17 1:45 AM LHR
08/04/17 6:50 AM 789
Daily
73% / 14m F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B3 H3 K3 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0


1 A/K and 2/AK are occupied (not blocked), only middle seats left.

Friendly reminder to please include the origin and destination cities in your request.
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 1:43 am
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Can soneone check BA 943 (DUS - LHR) and 251 (LHR - SCL) for the 11th of July please?
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 2:09 am
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Originally Posted by Mueller
Can soneone check BA 943 (DUS - LHR) and 251 (LHR - SCL) for the 11th of July please?
UK Position

BA 943
DUS 11/07/17 18:30
LHR 11/07/17 18:55
319
J9 C4 D1 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q9 O0 S0 G9

BA 251
LHR 11/07/17 21:55
SCL 12/07/17 7:30
789
F5 A5 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 2:32 am
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Could someone check
BA12 SIN - LHR 18th August
BA11 LHR - SIN 02 September
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 2:54 am
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Originally Posted by LHR FLYER
Could someone check
BA12 SIN - LHR 18th August
BA11 LHR - SIN 02 September
UK Position

BA 12
SIN 18/08/17 23:15
LHR 19/08/17 5:50
388
F0 A0 J9 C9 D1 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 11
LHR 02/09/17 19:55
SIN 03/09/17 16:05
388
F7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 9:14 am
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BA 272 11Jul SAN-LHR Loads

Hi there,

if anyone has access to Expertflyer, I would be very grateful for the Loads on BA272 SAN-LHR on Tues 11Jul. Trying to work out if this will work or if I need to head to LAX.

Thank you in advance!
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 9:15 am
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One of the helpful folks here should be able to assist:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...loads-272.html
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