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Old May 27, 2017, 8:25 am
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All IT systems are back up and running and BA are operating normal flight schedules.

PLEASE ASK ALL COMPENSATION RELATED QUESTIONS IN THE DEDICATED TOPIC: The 2017 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation 261/2004. The full list of cancelled and delayed flights for Sunday is to be found here, though note that it is the arrival time that matters for delays.

Successful (or otherwise) reports for claims where the information would be of use to others would, however, be very welcome in this thread.

Monday flight cancellations for LHR listed here. Services to and from LGW, LCY and STN seem to be working more or less on time.. Telephone numbers for rebooking are in this post, note also the difference between what contact centres and airport staff can do, noted here.

Updated 29/05/2017 22:50 (UK time) Link to BA updates: https://www.britishairways.com/trave...VINF4more_news

Baggage
There are a significant number of bags at Heathrow which we will be reuniting with customers via couriers as soon as we can. This will be done free of charge. Please help us to get these to you as quickly as possible by ensuring we have your latest contact details by filing a delayed bag report.



If your journey was disrupted -
Because of the scale of the disruption, most passengers should expect to make their own arrangements to mitigate the disruption as BA will not have resources to assist all passengers. BA have a duty of care under EU Regulation 261/2004 and according to this letter handed out at Gatwick the following costs would usually be claimable from BA.
  • Ł25 for reasonable meal/refeshment expenses (per adult per day)
  • 2 reasonable phone calls per customer

If an overnight stay is required
  • Ł200 for a hotel room (for 2 people)
  • Ł50 Transport to/from the airport (round trip)

Although BA has suggested some guideline costs for duty of care, EU Regulation 261/2004 doesn't specify any monetary cap. By documenting (take a screen capture of a hotel comparison site for example) that there were no cheaper alternatives, it is possible that claims exceeding the guideline costs suggested by BA may be met. Expenses not covered by BA may be claimable from your travel insurance subject to possible policy excesses.

Duty of care is separate from fixed sum compensation (EUR 250 to 600 depending on the flight distance) for flight delays/cancellations, which may or may not be payable under EU Regulation 261/2004 depending on whether BA can show that the flight delay was caused by 'extraordinary circumstances' and that it took 'all reasonable measures' to avoid the resulting delay. Also, airlines do not usually entertain claims for consequential losses (for example, the cost of prepaid accomodation which you can't now use), so you would need to look to your travel insurance for these costs.

EU Regulation 261/2004 does not cover delayed/damaged/lost baggage. The Montreal Convention sets an upper limit for delayed/damaged/lost baggage compensation. For more information, visit the BA.com webpage on delayed/damaged/lost baggage.

You can read the forum thread for guidance on EU Regulation 261/2004 or check back on these forums later for more advice on claiming, but first of all look after yourself during this disruption.

Claiming expenses incurred during the disruption
https://disruptionclaim.britishairways.com/

Historic update as of 18:55 on Saturday

All BA flights from LHR and LGW are cancelled for the remainder of the day (Saturday 27th May). This is due to a major systems outage of most of BA's computer systems. The original cause of the outage was a power failure from which BA has found it difficult to recover.

Because Call Centre systems are also down, and their own web pages may be affected, BA is encouraging affected customer to seek updates via BA Twitter feed and Facebook page.

Alex Cruz has indicated that those passengers who no longer wish to fly with BA on their booking for today will be "fast tracked" for refunds. However, no mechanism for this has yet been communicated (7pm Saturday). Again affected customers are asked to follow the relevant Twitter and Facebook communication channels.

There are reportedly long delays leaving the airport with some customers claiming delays of many hours.
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27 May 'worldwide' BA IT outage | practical assistance/advice [Clutter-free please]

Old May 27, 2017, 3:25 am
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This sounds worse than previous FLY meltdowns. Don't recall these manifest issues before.

Waa going to fly EDI-LHR today but am taking the train instead. Torn between being glad I'm missing the chaos and sad I'm probably missing out on €250
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:25 am
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Will be testing for those families jetting off for half term today!
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:25 am
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I'm arriving a few hours early so hopefully it won't eat into my drinking time
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:28 am
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Sat on the 0940 LHR NCE. Going nowhere whilst we wait for the paperwork to be done manually. At least the air on is working on board
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:29 am
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I'm arriving a few hours early so hopefully it won't eat into my drinking time
Best carry some minatures to get you started in the queue!
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:30 am
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Is this also impacting in BA.com? Having issues managing bookings / seat choices
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:30 am
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Lightning strike on the FLY data centre (?) according to our FO on BA417.
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:31 am
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From what I've heard from a friend within BA it's more than just FLY that's gone down. Ops & engineering systems are also on the blink and have been so for around an hour. Could be a long day for all pax & BA
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:32 am
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Announcement has just gone out at C65 calling status pax but saying that they're having "computer gitches" and asking for patience.

Looks like the 10:35 pushback isn't happening, will update if we get further info or delays - chances are that there's a fair proportion of pax for 185 caught in FLY hell, there's nowhere near a full 772's worth of pax here.

A fair number of school groups were queuing for check-in at the same as us, God only knows what they're going through right now - C-gates are relatively tranquil.
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by andrewdrinks
Lightning strike on the FLY data centre (?) according to our FO on BA417.
That's plausible; thunderstorms were possible around LHR this morning (40%) and band of very dark clouds passed over between 7:30-8:30.

There's a surprising number of data centres located immediately adjacent to Heathrow used by multiple providers, if it turns out to be one of those I'm sure we'll see some coverage in the tech press shortly.
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:34 am
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Sat on the 0940 LHR NCE. Going nowhere whilst we wait for the paperwork to be done manually. At least the air on is working on board
My Dad is waiting in NCE for the return leg and is going nowhere fast.

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Old May 27, 2017, 3:37 am
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Our flight from Bucharest is stuck in a remote corner waiting for a gate. No announcements from the crew.
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:43 am
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Crowded and long queues here at T5! Get here early.

The queue for the First check in area is a good 200+ people long. Pretty much along the wing to the road outside.Just walked around them and straight through the first wing in seconds
The first wing and online check in / mobile boarding pass have just paid for themselves!

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Old May 27, 2017, 3:53 am
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They are using another system at LCY... Problem is that gate staff have no clue how to operate it, so it is taking a long time. At least flights are leaving though.
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Old May 27, 2017, 3:55 am
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And now qualifying for an iWatch alert on the BBC:

BA computer problems cause passenger delays
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40069865

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