Better days ahead but J is awful
#76
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
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...Of course, that millions of others like BA won't help someone who hates the airline but then I don't understand what they're trying to achieve by reminding us that BA is not CX or QR and constantly wishing that others should rather hurry up and abandon BA so that BA finally wakes up and changes the seats, reverses BoB, puts flowers in washrooms etc.
"...It is a long time since the airline... was the national carrier. Now it is an international laughing stock"
#77
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, TK Elite, HHonors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 7,691
I actually read that piece, and he did not say anything new that I have not read here before. He is entitled to his opinion, but it is just that.
#78
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Well, I guess there is only so much you can say about it; which is why we find the complaints so tedious.
OK, yesterday's fiasco is a new stone in the sling, joining the grubby aircraft, buy-on-board etc
His comments appear to be based on a consensus of reader comments, rather than personal opinion.
Though I'm guessing he has had a bad experience with the airline: always a mistake to upset a travel editor
#79
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: New York
Programs: QR Silver, BA Silver, FB Gold
Posts: 360
I've pretty much given up on BA anyway, except on the (very rare) occasion when there is no better alternative, and have had no cause to regret my decision so far.
#80
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
Had the same thing happen to me last night! I'd just fallen asleep, then *splosh* - an entire glass of champagne spilled all over me
The only saving grace is that they take the piss and serve the champagne in tiny glasses!
I wasn't offered anything to make it up to me, I just got what seemed like a rather insincere apology from the cabin crew member (honestly, really don't think she cared). Oh, and she gave me a few tiny little 'gauze' towels to dry myself with - can't have been any bigger than 3.5" squared, and full of holes. Thankfully I always keeps spares in my hand baggage (this is actually the 2nd time this has happened to me).
The only saving grace is that they take the piss and serve the champagne in tiny glasses!
I wasn't offered anything to make it up to me, I just got what seemed like a rather insincere apology from the cabin crew member (honestly, really don't think she cared). Oh, and she gave me a few tiny little 'gauze' towels to dry myself with - can't have been any bigger than 3.5" squared, and full of holes. Thankfully I always keeps spares in my hand baggage (this is actually the 2nd time this has happened to me).
#81
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: Ba gold, gha black
Posts: 283
As a follow up to my opening post..
I flew back today in J on the GIG 248 flight with my family who had paid full cash for our tickets. No avios redemption used. The cost we paid per ticket was 1500 GBP which in sale terms isn't bad, but when you book 4 tickets that is an awful lot of money. Now todays debacle was that there was no IFE from start to finish. The only thing you could watch was moving map. I realise things happen from time to time, but i had the same thing happen on my previous BA flight in F back in December. At the time i was awarded 10k avios as compensation. I filled out the forms as did most of the plane for service recovery today.
Now, i ask for advice, quite frankly I'm not interested in receiving another 10k of avios. I have enough to last for years, what are my options for giving honest feedback as to how totally awful both my outbound and return journey was in its contexts, and compensation claim ? Can u ever get any money back from BA?
Thanks
I flew back today in J on the GIG 248 flight with my family who had paid full cash for our tickets. No avios redemption used. The cost we paid per ticket was 1500 GBP which in sale terms isn't bad, but when you book 4 tickets that is an awful lot of money. Now todays debacle was that there was no IFE from start to finish. The only thing you could watch was moving map. I realise things happen from time to time, but i had the same thing happen on my previous BA flight in F back in December. At the time i was awarded 10k avios as compensation. I filled out the forms as did most of the plane for service recovery today.
Now, i ask for advice, quite frankly I'm not interested in receiving another 10k of avios. I have enough to last for years, what are my options for giving honest feedback as to how totally awful both my outbound and return journey was in its contexts, and compensation claim ? Can u ever get any money back from BA?
Thanks
#82
Join Date: Feb 2009
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#83
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: AA EXP (LT Plat 2MM), Marriott Plat, IHG Plat, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat75, UA1K
Posts: 1,248
Flew CW on BA295 to Chicago on Tuesday. Reaffirmed that I don't like CW. Was in an aisle seat in the mini J cabin. Hate staring at a stranger while settling in then you have that very awkward moment of "how do I raise the privacy screen?" Ask the person sitting opposite if it's okay or just do it? Can't view screen during taxi/takeoff/landing. CC leaning over you toto serve pax sitting in the 2 middle seats. Footrest is flimsy.
I will say J catering was better than the last time I was in J in 2011 (the onion tart starter still gives me nightmares). It took 3.5 hours to complete the lunch service (at least that's when I fell asleep missing dessert).
I will say J catering was better than the last time I was in J in 2011 (the onion tart starter still gives me nightmares). It took 3.5 hours to complete the lunch service (at least that's when I fell asleep missing dessert).
#84
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Chicago, IL
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Posts: 1,248
Flew CW on BA295 to Chicago on Tuesday. Reaffirmed that I don't like CW. Was in an aisle seat in the mini J cabin. Hate staring at a stranger while settling in then you have that very awkward moment of "how do I raise the privacy screen?" Ask the person sitting opposite if it's okay or just do it? Can't view screen during taxi/takeoff/landing. CC leaning over you toto serve pax sitting in the 2 middle seats. Footrest is flimsy.
I will say J catering was better than the last time I was in J in 2011 (the onion tart starter still gives me nightmares). It took 3.5 hours to complete the lunch service (at least that's when I fell asleep missing dessert).
I will say J catering was better than the last time I was in J in 2011 (the onion tart starter still gives me nightmares). It took 3.5 hours to complete the lunch service (at least that's when I fell asleep missing dessert).
#85
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Programs: BA Oneworld
Posts: 582
The planes on the LHR-GIG route are truly awful; some of the oldest I have experienced. As for taking your business elsewhere, the problem is that there is no effective competition as all other operators do not fly direct. The good news is that they are being pulled in October and replaced with 778s.
#86
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Cambridgeshire
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Posts: 1,296
As a follow up to my opening post..
I flew back today in J on the GIG 248 flight with my family who had paid full cash for our tickets. No avios redemption used. The cost we paid per ticket was 1500 GBP which in sale terms isn't bad, but when you book 4 tickets that is an awful lot of money. Now todays debacle was that there was no IFE from start to finish. The only thing you could watch was moving map. I realise things happen from time to time, but i had the same thing happen on my previous BA flight in F back in December. At the time i was awarded 10k avios as compensation. I filled out the forms as did most of the plane for service recovery today.
Now, i ask for advice, quite frankly I'm not interested in receiving another 10k of avios. I have enough to last for years, what are my options for giving honest feedback as to how totally awful both my outbound and return journey was in its contexts, and compensation claim ? Can u ever get any money back from BA?
Thanks
I flew back today in J on the GIG 248 flight with my family who had paid full cash for our tickets. No avios redemption used. The cost we paid per ticket was 1500 GBP which in sale terms isn't bad, but when you book 4 tickets that is an awful lot of money. Now todays debacle was that there was no IFE from start to finish. The only thing you could watch was moving map. I realise things happen from time to time, but i had the same thing happen on my previous BA flight in F back in December. At the time i was awarded 10k avios as compensation. I filled out the forms as did most of the plane for service recovery today.
Now, i ask for advice, quite frankly I'm not interested in receiving another 10k of avios. I have enough to last for years, what are my options for giving honest feedback as to how totally awful both my outbound and return journey was in its contexts, and compensation claim ? Can u ever get any money back from BA?
Thanks
I recently used the UK government's Money Claim Online service (which the CAA mention) to claim against a mobile phone manufacturer who was illegally refusing a refund under the Consumer Rights Act. It was simple, cheap and effective, and I got a full refund within 14 days after bashing my head against a brick wall for months. I didn't have to go to court - issuing the claim was sufficient to get them to budge. You don't have to claim a full refund; perhaps you can come up with something you feel is reasonable for the poor service and negotiate from there.
If you do decide on legal action you have to follow certain steps to give the company a chance to resolve matters before proceeding, and you have to be able to provide proof that you've done this.
I've not tried it myself vs an airline, so I don't know if it will work. But it only costs £25 to file a claim, and you can decide to drop out along the way if you don't want to pursue it. And it seems to have worked in the past for others: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-Airways.html