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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.

This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.

Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html

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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445

Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)

Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284


Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792


Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793


Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003

Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)

Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733

Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)

Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).

Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)

Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:

LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine

LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini


Structured into:

Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6


Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2


Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
Your question was clearly formed to imply a negative slant to this positive news, The answer to your question is clearly answered in my post. BA have been unequivocal in their description of the offering (a) a 'hot sandwich' on domestics (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would come under that description) and (b) a 'hot meal' on other routes (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would not come under that description).
So you really think that, say, London to Amsterdam, will serve a proper hot main at lunch and dinner?

I do not believe this to be the case. Hence the clarification.

I think you are putting too much faith in BA.com.
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
Nothing condescending in my reply at all. In a time where BA have been penny pinching across the board we now see a veritable improvement in the service offerings. This is a genuine improvement of the CE proposition.

Your question was clearly formed to imply a negative slant to this positive news, The answer to your question is clearly answered in my post. BA have been unequivocal in their description of the offering (a) a 'hot sandwich' on domestics (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would come under that description) and (b) a 'hot meal' on other routes (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would not come under that description).
By this logic, everything written on BA.com is so trustworthy that we can be sure BA will not be including a free bar in Club Domestic.
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
There will be hot meals on all lunch and dinner flights across all bands.
Thanks for confirming Tobias, that is great news ^ - and a big improvement on what was earlier mooted, which was a cut-back service on shorter flights depending on your departure time (which only works if you assume that there are no time zone changes and everyone is able to eat a meal on a UK schedule )
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
So you really think that, say, London to Amsterdam, will serve a proper hot main at lunch and dinner? ...
It depends on your definition of 'proper'. Think of it logically. BA will classify flights in, essentially, three bands: short, medium and long. The catering supplied will therefore be appropriate for the duration of the flight. The meal offered on a 'short' LHR-AMS flight is obviously not going to be as substantial as that provided on a 'long' LHR-RAK mainly due to the time necessary to serve, consume and clear away the meal.

On 'short' bands I would expect a light meal, with something more substantial as you rise up the catering bands.

Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
...I think you are putting too much faith in BA.com.
No. Like everything I read on FlyerTalk, I take it at face value.
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 3:21 am
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If BA serve a hot meal on a London to Amsterdam, I will eat my hat.
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
If BA serve a hot meal on a London to Amsterdam, I will eat my hat.
We are not falling for that one, everyone knows you have a nacho hat just ready for this
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 3:46 am
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Tobias-UK do you have any information confirming the introduction of hot meals (not cheese toasties) on all European sectors at lunch/dinner other than what is printed on BA.com?
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I'm on the 777 to MAD on the 1st, will be able to pretend I'm in Club World with the new menu
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 4:45 am
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I'm on the 777 to MAD on the 1st, will be able to pretend I'm in Club World with the new menu
They serve cheese toasties in Club World now?
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They serve cheese toasties in Club World now?
Only if you know who to ask
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 4:57 am
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Scones..... enhanced.
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Scones..... enhanced.
Yes but there is a salad for afternoon tea that hopefully will resemble an actual J meal. I'll take that over scones.
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
If BA serve a hot meal on a London to Amsterdam, I will eat my hat.
Speak to crew nicely, and they'll gladly pop your hat in the oven galley for you. (just takes the chill off it, I always find .....).
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 5:11 am
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Yes but there is a salad for afternoon tea that hopefully will resemble an actual J meal. I'll take that over scones.
But if you choose the tiny sandwiches they come with equally tiny cake but no scones.
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 5:13 am
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On ba.com it does say "tasty lights meals"

sounds rather fishy (and I don't mean because of the "s")

Originally Posted by bhbloke
I'm on the 777 to MAD on the 1st, will be able to pretend I'm in Club World with the new menu

MAD is still Brunch and Afternoon tea, so if you're goin back with the 777
that is what you'll get.
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