Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Mar 27, 2017, 5:09 am
#301
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Has afternoon tea changed?
Mar 27, 2017, 5:31 am
#302
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Mar 27, 2017, 7:10 am
#303
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: UK
Programs: I go wherever the content takes me.
Posts: 5,698
Flew AGP-LGW yesterday. Was actually unaware of these changes!
1130 departure so was expecting a brunch - ordered a LFML.
I was very impressed with the new service.
Pros:
- No need to find extra space to store a mini bottle of wine ad they now pour for you from a larger one
- Quality was excellent
- Proper starter, good portion size
- Better cup design (tall, less risk of spillage)
- Generous dessert portion
Cons:
- Seems to take quite a bit of crew time
I will post pics later on today!
1130 departure so was expecting a brunch - ordered a LFML.
I was very impressed with the new service.
Pros:
- No need to find extra space to store a mini bottle of wine ad they now pour for you from a larger one
- Quality was excellent
- Proper starter, good portion size
- Better cup design (tall, less risk of spillage)
- Generous dessert portion
Cons:
- Seems to take quite a bit of crew time
I will post pics later on today!
Mar 27, 2017, 7:29 am
#304
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Executive Club - Silver (OWS)
Posts: 765
For such a short flight that offering certainly looks decent...apart from the strange red jaggered shape above the mushrooms? I am definitely in favour of these changes as it's the first time in many many moons that a full English is up for grabs on a NCL service, and being elevated to the dizzy heights of catering status enjoyed by the EDI/GLA/ABZ/INV services. Unlucky MAN/LBA 
Mar 27, 2017, 7:30 am
#305
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Location: London, UK
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The butter in the latest photo is Elle et Vire. Admittedly, also French.
Mar 27, 2017, 7:36 am
#306
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I hope you'll all agree this is a significant improvement on what used to be "Band 3".
Mar 27, 2017, 7:44 am
#307
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Note that the previous post contains pictures of a LFML, not a standard meal. But having looked around mine was of a similar quality on the same crockery with the same size portions etc.
Mar 27, 2017, 7:49 am
#308
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Mar 27, 2017, 7:51 am
#309
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Haven't been following the thread. But definitely no panini on this flight, which was AGP-LGW (so a "Long" sector). Departure time was 1130, and was already braced for the disappointment of the dreaded old cold brunch.
Mar 27, 2017, 8:03 am
#310
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Mar 27, 2017, 8:14 am
#312
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To be fair, I don't think there was a big concern about the Long banded flights. The meal paul4040 posted above looks quite nice. I think the biggest problem is with the old band 3 flights that have fallen into the Medium category, those that will get the miniature salad thingy or the hot sandwich. There's no way that sandwich costs more than £2 to make so I think passengers on those flights have definitely been short-changed.
But hey ho, other airlines do exist.
But hey ho, other airlines do exist.
Mar 27, 2017, 8:37 am
#313
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Good improvement for the old band 3 (b) flights like Helsinki, Lisbon and Malaga then.
Mar 27, 2017, 8:39 am
#314
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To be fair, I don't think there was a big concern about the Long banded flights. The meal paul4040 posted above looks quite nice. I think the biggest problem is with the old band 3 flights that have fallen into the Medium category, those that will get the miniature salad thingy or the hot sandwich. There's no way that sandwich costs more than £2 to make so I think passengers on those flights have definitely been short-changed.
But hey ho, other airlines do exist.
But hey ho, other airlines do exist.
I know you can buy those processed frozen panini's for €0.40 in Colruyt at twice the size. The few slithers of tomato cost pennies along with the industro-mozarella and there is only one painting of pesto. I would say its about 30-35 pence material cost.
And by the way, with regards to the President butter that Pucci mentioned. I noticed that the local branded butter where I have been staying was replaced by this and I enquired with the F&B Manager who told me its cheaper right now via the catering supplier. This is in Poland.
Mar 27, 2017, 8:48 am
#315
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, I initially wrote £3, but that would be crazy! Anyway I feel vindicated that I described it as a 'cheap old sarnie' because it was obvious that was what it was going to be. Such a shame because all band 3's used to have some decent meals at most times.