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Old Feb 28, 2017, 1:42 am
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World Traveller Plus fares to book into K/Y within UK and to/from JER
With the introduction of Club Europe on domestic routes, the booking codes for Traveller Plus fares containing feeder flights within the UK and to/from JER change with effect from today, for domestic sectors booked for travel on/after 01 April.

For those on the cheapest fares, this will lead to a loss of lounge access and TPs.

Whether existing bookings will be revalidated into the lower fare class is not yet known.

Dual inventory T fares have not yet been modified and continue to book into J. This is likely to change in line with the fare families below.

T- fares will now book into K.
This means TPs for domestic sectors will go from 20 to 10, and lounge access will not be available before these domestic sectors except on the basis of status.

Code:
>$LB86                                                         
086 JERNYC 01APR17 BA GBP  864.00 TLW2S4C1 STAY-SU/12MBK-T     
FARE CLS  EXPLANATION                            BOOK CODES    
--------  ----------------------                 ----------    
TLW2S4C1  BASIC SEASON WEEKEND PREMIUM ECONOMY      T          
TLW2S4C1  INSTANT PURCHASE FARES                               
TLW2S4C1  BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 1 APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
                                                               
 BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS                                       
   VIA BA  K     REQUIRED      T- FARES  FLTS 2070-2149        
   VIA BA  K     REQUIRED      T- FARES  FLTS 5900-5979        
   VIA BA  K     REQUIRED      T- FARES  FLTS 5980-5999        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      T- FARES  FLTS 7500-7699        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      T- FARES  FLTS 6110-6119        
   VIA BA  K     REQUIRED      T- FARES  WITHIN UNITED KINGDOM 
                               01APR17-31DEC46                 
   VIA BA  K     REQUIRED      T- FARES  BETWEEN LON-AMM       
   VIA BA  K     REQUIRED      T- FARES  BETWEEN LON-BEY       
   VIA BA  Q/N   REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE  T- FARES  BETWEEN
                               BKK-USM                         
   VIA BA  V/L   REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE  T- FARES  BETWEEN
                               BKK-USM                         
   VIA BA  M/K   REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE  T- FARES  BETWEEN
                               BKK-USM                         
(... snipped ...)
E- fares will book into Y.

Code:
>$LB1                                                          
001 JERNYC 01APR17 BA GBP 1014.00 ELX2S4C1 STAY-SU/12MBK-E     
FARE CLS  EXPLANATION                            BOOK CODES    
--------  ----------------------                 ----------    
ELX2S4C1  BASIC SEASON MIDWEEK PREMIUM ECONOMY      E          
ELX2S4C1  INSTANT PURCHASE FARES                               
ELX2S4C1  BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 1 APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
                                                               
 BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS                                       
   VIA BA  H     REQUIRED      E- FARES  FLTS 2070-2149        
   VIA BA  H     REQUIRED      E- FARES  FLTS 2800-2879        
   VIA BA  H     REQUIRED      E- FARES  FLTS 5900-5979        
   VIA BA  H     REQUIRED      E- FARES  FLTS 5980-5999        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      E- FARES  FLTS 7500-7699        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      E- FARES  FLTS 6110-6119        
   VIA BA  Y/B   REQUIRED      E- FARES  WITHIN UNITED KINGDOM 
                               01APR17-31DEC46                 
   VIA BA  H     REQUIRED      E- FARES  BETWEEN LON-BEY       
   VIA BA  H     REQUIRED      E- FARES  BETWEEN LON-AMM       
   VIA BA  E     REQUIRED      WHEN OFFERED  E- FARES  FLTS    
                               4130-4149                       
(... snipped ...)
W- fares will book into Y.
Code:
>$LB3                                                          
003 JERNYC 01APR17 BA GBP 1464.00 W1JB     STAY---/12MBK-W     
FARE CLS  EXPLANATION                            BOOK CODES    
--------  ----------------------                 ----------    
W1JB      PREMIUM ECONOMY UNRESTRICTED FARES        W          
W1JB      BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 FOR ONE WAY FARES  
                                                               
 BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS                                       
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      W- FARES  FLTS 2070-2149        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      W- FARES  FLTS 5900-5979        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      W- FARES  FLTS 5980-5999        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      W- FARES  FLTS 7500-7699        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      W- FARES  FLTS 6110-6119        
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      W- FARES  WITHIN UNITED KINGDOM 
                               01APR17-31DEC46                 
   VIA BA  W     REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE  W- FARES  WITHIN
                               USA                             
   VIA BA  Y     REQUIRED      W- FARES  WITHIN USA            
(... snipped ...)
Despite earlier reports that those booked into Y class would be treated as Club Europe, BA is not describing domestic Y class as "business". Therefore I do not think lounge access or Club Europe seating will apply on any feeder flights under World Traveller Plus fares. But that remains to be proven.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Despite earlier reports that those booked into Y class would be treated as Club Europe, BA is not describing domestic Y class as "business". Therefore I do not think lounge access or Club Europe seating will apply on any feeder flights under World Traveller Plus fares. But that remains to be proven.
The report was that people who had already booked Y (advertised as 'Business UK' on the website) would be moved into the Club Europe cabin, presumably a script will be run converting those fares to the J bucket.

It wouldn't make sense to keep Y as a business class fare in domestics going forward.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by layz
The report was that people who had already booked Y (advertised as 'Business UK' on the website) would be moved into the Club Europe cabin, presumably a script will be run converting those fares to the J bucket.

It wouldn't make sense to keep Y as a business class fare in domestics going forward.
I would agree with this.

Revalidating tickets into J is quite straightforward.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 5:47 am
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Thumbs down Change in class for WTP bookings (Domestic leg)
I saw this today for the first time. Previously all my WTP bookings from JER to Asia, the JER leg was booked into Buinsess.
This was quite helpful for Tier points but also changes at LGW if needed.

Now it seems to book into Economy (selling class Y).
Is this a deliberate change ( I assume so!)?
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 5:50 am
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This is already being discussed in the thread started by [B]Calchas[/B , it is a deliberate change and part of the changes resulting from introducing CE on domestic flights.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...in-uk-jer.html
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Originally Posted by brit hk
I saw this today for the first time. Previously all my WTP bookings from JER to Asia, the JER leg was booked into Buinsess.
This was quite helpful for Tier points but also changes at LGW if needed.

Now it seems to book into Economy (selling class Y).
Is this a deliberate change ( I assume so!)?
Surely there would be grounds to contest this on the basis that you were sold a ticket in business class on the JER-LGW-JER sectors and now they have downgraded you. JER is not like the other domestic destinations where there is simply a booking class change but ultimately people are still sitting in economy (as booked). JER bookings were booked into business class so to now be changed to economy is just not right.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by Jetstreamer
Surely there would be grounds to contest this on the basis that you were sold a ticket in business class on the JER-LGW-JER sectors and now they have downgraded you. JER is not like the other domestic destinations where there is simply a booking class change but ultimately people are still sitting in economy (as booked). JER bookings were booked into business class so to now be changed to economy is just not right.
I've not seen anyone say previously issued tickets to JER have been downgraded, more likely it's ones that are booked from now on.
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Does this mean my flights in April and May that I booked last year loose lounge? Or is it just flights booked after now.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by OSIModel
Does this mean my flights in April and May that I booked last year loose lounge? Or is it just flights booked after now.
It seems to be new bookings only. Existing bookings don't seem to be reclassified from J selling class to K.
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Does this mean my flights in April and May that I booked last year loose lounge? Or is it just flights booked after now.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 11:25 am
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Just a reminder ...

Originally Posted by Calchas
Whether existing bookings will be revalidated into the lower fare class is not yet known.
Once the fate of existing bookings is known it will be posted here.
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