Your guide to spending Avios | 2017 edition
#78
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Scotland
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Spire Elite
Posts: 49
Hi everyone,
Aplogies in advance if this isn't the right thread - please let me know if this is the case.
I'm hoping you may be able to help with advice on whether you can get better value for Avios and lower costs if you make the long-haul portion of a journey start outside of UK.
I am BA gold, currently with 260,000 avios and amex 241 valid till jan 2017.
I live in Scotland, so Glasgow is my home airport.
I would like to get to Orlando/Tampa/Miami at Christmas, however the availability is already very low and the cost is very high due to duty from LHR/LGW. 3 x WT return will be 150,000 avios plus about £1,200. I am fairly sure I could get normal economy tickets for not much more than that.
So, the question is, can a make a journey that takes me to somewhere in Europe first, and avoid much of the taxes ? I've read it can be done but not found any way to find flights. BA comes up with nothing, as does the Avios website.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Aplogies in advance if this isn't the right thread - please let me know if this is the case.
I'm hoping you may be able to help with advice on whether you can get better value for Avios and lower costs if you make the long-haul portion of a journey start outside of UK.
I am BA gold, currently with 260,000 avios and amex 241 valid till jan 2017.
I live in Scotland, so Glasgow is my home airport.
I would like to get to Orlando/Tampa/Miami at Christmas, however the availability is already very low and the cost is very high due to duty from LHR/LGW. 3 x WT return will be 150,000 avios plus about £1,200. I am fairly sure I could get normal economy tickets for not much more than that.
So, the question is, can a make a journey that takes me to somewhere in Europe first, and avoid much of the taxes ? I've read it can be done but not found any way to find flights. BA comes up with nothing, as does the Avios website.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
#79
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 8
Help!! AA flights not bookable
I am trying to use Avios on AA flight from Houston to Maui via Phoenix. IAH-->PHX-->OGG-->PHX-->IAH
I am able to find award flights on AA's website, but not on BA. When I call BA they tell me there is no availability, not only for the days I'm looking for, but also for the month before and after.
What gives? Why is it so difficult to book a flight to Hawaii using AA?!
All tips/advice appreciate, thank you!
I am able to find award flights on AA's website, but not on BA. When I call BA they tell me there is no availability, not only for the days I'm looking for, but also for the month before and after.
What gives? Why is it so difficult to book a flight to Hawaii using AA?!
All tips/advice appreciate, thank you!
#80
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ADL
Programs: QFF, AAdvantage, All
Posts: 1,137
I'm a BA executive club member without any avios points, as I've nominated my AAdvantage account instead. But I now want to gain avios points for my upcoming Flybe flight, which requires my 9-digit avios account No., which I can't find in my BAEC account?
Whats going on here?
Whats going on here?
#81
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,936
I'm a BA executive club member without any avios points, as I've nominated my AAdvantage account instead. But I now want to gain avios points for my upcoming Flybe flight, which requires my 9-digit avios account No., which I can't find in my BAEC account?
Whats going on here?
Whats going on here?
#83
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: Accor PLT,Thai Silver, HH Dia, SPG Titanium (LT Gold), Aegean Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 5,117
Hi everyone,
Aplogies in advance if this isn't the right thread - please let me know if this is the case.
I'm hoping you may be able to help with advice on whether you can get better value for Avios and lower costs if you make the long-haul portion of a journey start outside of UK.
I am BA gold, currently with 260,000 avios and amex 241 valid till jan 2017.
I live in Scotland, so Glasgow is my home airport.
I would like to get to Orlando/Tampa/Miami at Christmas, however the availability is already very low and the cost is very high due to duty from LHR/LGW. 3 x WT return will be 150,000 avios plus about £1,200. I am fairly sure I could get normal economy tickets for not much more than that.
So, the question is, can a make a journey that takes me to somewhere in Europe first, and avoid much of the taxes ? I've read it can be done but not found any way to find flights. BA comes up with nothing, as does the Avios website.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Aplogies in advance if this isn't the right thread - please let me know if this is the case.
I'm hoping you may be able to help with advice on whether you can get better value for Avios and lower costs if you make the long-haul portion of a journey start outside of UK.
I am BA gold, currently with 260,000 avios and amex 241 valid till jan 2017.
I live in Scotland, so Glasgow is my home airport.
I would like to get to Orlando/Tampa/Miami at Christmas, however the availability is already very low and the cost is very high due to duty from LHR/LGW. 3 x WT return will be 150,000 avios plus about £1,200. I am fairly sure I could get normal economy tickets for not much more than that.
So, the question is, can a make a journey that takes me to somewhere in Europe first, and avoid much of the taxes ? I've read it can be done but not found any way to find flights. BA comes up with nothing, as does the Avios website.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
A flight to the US for £400 or less at Christmas will be a challenge I think.
#84
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: Accor PLT,Thai Silver, HH Dia, SPG Titanium (LT Gold), Aegean Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 5,117
I am trying to use Avios on AA flight from Houston to Maui via Phoenix. IAH-->PHX-->OGG-->PHX-->IAH
I am able to find award flights on AA's website, but not on BA. When I call BA they tell me there is no availability, not only for the days I'm looking for, but also for the month before and after.
What gives? Why is it so difficult to book a flight to Hawaii using AA?!
All tips/advice appreciate, thank you!
I am able to find award flights on AA's website, but not on BA. When I call BA they tell me there is no availability, not only for the days I'm looking for, but also for the month before and after.
What gives? Why is it so difficult to book a flight to Hawaii using AA?!
All tips/advice appreciate, thank you!
#85
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
I read the section on UuA and it's not clear to me whether this would be allowed or not.
It also mentions you can upgrade AA and IB flights.
I have a trip booked on BA stock (booked via the BA call centre) and have been told by several agents no issues in upgrading, even the agent who yesterday went to process the UuA for me. The flight was originally an AA flight number LHR-JFK however was a codeshare on a BA operated flight. Due to a schedule change my flight has changed and I'm now booked on the BA code directly. In any case, when trying to UuA after a couple of hours of to and fro the Gold line then rang back and said because the original booking (before my invol reroute) had an AA flight number it's not eligible to be upgraded.
Is that right?
UuAs can only be applied to tickets issued on 125 stock. In other words tickets issued by BA or BA registered travel agents with ticket numbers beginning 125. Tickets sold by Iberia and American Airlines are issued on different numbered stock and cannot be upgraded using Avios.
I have a trip booked on BA stock (booked via the BA call centre) and have been told by several agents no issues in upgrading, even the agent who yesterday went to process the UuA for me. The flight was originally an AA flight number LHR-JFK however was a codeshare on a BA operated flight. Due to a schedule change my flight has changed and I'm now booked on the BA code directly. In any case, when trying to UuA after a couple of hours of to and fro the Gold line then rang back and said because the original booking (before my invol reroute) had an AA flight number it's not eligible to be upgraded.
Is that right?
#86
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,936
Your BAEC account uses avios, it is separate from an IB account which also uses avios, and separate from a EI account which also uses avios, and separate from an avios.com account which also uses avios. They are just separate pots to hold air miles.
As noted you need to register for an avios.com account as Flybe can only be credited to avios.com, it can't be credited directly to BAEC.
#87
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MAN
Programs: F
Posts: 2,898
Yes - the problem is that BA now offer 'mixed class' fares - which means you're actually buying an upgraded economy fare for that discount premium economy price. You'll travel in WTP - but you're actually paying for economy + an upgrade.
In order to upgrade using avios - you have to purchase a full on WT+ fare - hence the higher price.
In order to upgrade using avios - you have to purchase a full on WT+ fare - hence the higher price.
#88
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: VS, BA, HH Gold
Posts: 397
Hi everyone,
Aplogies in advance if this isn't the right thread - please let me know if this is the case.
I'm hoping you may be able to help with advice on whether you can get better value for Avios and lower costs if you make the long-haul portion of a journey start outside of UK.
I am BA gold, currently with 260,000 avios and amex 241 valid till jan 2017.
I live in Scotland, so Glasgow is my home airport.
I would like to get to Orlando/Tampa/Miami at Christmas, however the availability is already very low and the cost is very high due to duty from LHR/LGW. 3 x WT return will be 150,000 avios plus about £1,200. I am fairly sure I could get normal economy tickets for not much more than that.
So, the question is, can a make a journey that takes me to somewhere in Europe first, and avoid much of the taxes ? I've read it can be done but not found any way to find flights. BA comes up with nothing, as does the Avios website.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Aplogies in advance if this isn't the right thread - please let me know if this is the case.
I'm hoping you may be able to help with advice on whether you can get better value for Avios and lower costs if you make the long-haul portion of a journey start outside of UK.
I am BA gold, currently with 260,000 avios and amex 241 valid till jan 2017.
I live in Scotland, so Glasgow is my home airport.
I would like to get to Orlando/Tampa/Miami at Christmas, however the availability is already very low and the cost is very high due to duty from LHR/LGW. 3 x WT return will be 150,000 avios plus about £1,200. I am fairly sure I could get normal economy tickets for not much more than that.
So, the question is, can a make a journey that takes me to somewhere in Europe first, and avoid much of the taxes ? I've read it can be done but not found any way to find flights. BA comes up with nothing, as does the Avios website.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
241 Valid til when??? Jan 201 8 ?
To avoid taxes, could try INV-LHR-NYC on BA 241 and then Jet Blue or AA or Delta to MCO?
Or INV-LHR-MIA?
Or ignore the 241 and go via DUB with Aer Lingus?
#89
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA PP, UA 1K/MM, WoH Globalist, HH Gold
Posts: 1,196
Fees lower if trip originates in Europe?
I noticed that if I try to book a round trip business class between say SFO and HAM, if I originate the trip in SFO, I get:
154250 Avios + $1,142.19 of which $956.00 is the carrier imposed fees.
But if I start in HAM and book a round trip business class between HAM and SFO, I get:
154250 Avios + $637.89 of which $455.38 is the carrier imposed fees.
Why is this?
Thanks.
154250 Avios + $1,142.19 of which $956.00 is the carrier imposed fees.
But if I start in HAM and book a round trip business class between HAM and SFO, I get:
154250 Avios + $637.89 of which $455.38 is the carrier imposed fees.
Why is this?
Thanks.
#90
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 122
I have a flight booked for MAD-LHR-YYZ in E and PE (On long haul). I want to upgrade the long haul between LHR-YYZ, since I am beginning my trip from MAD, would I still get a hefty charge for the upgrade?