Disgusting unclean seat 1A back from ICN
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Disgusting unclean seat 1A back from ICN
BA18 ICN-LHR 20/8
1A and 1B Clubworld
Absolutely disgustingly filthy seats on boarding, Korean spice paste (what we hope is) all over the panels, screen, remote control, seat. Damp seat too. Cabin crew were appalled and did a great job cleaning up – but really? 11 hours of flying when clearly not ready to fly? Just a sour end to an otherwise great trip, we don't have OCD but the thought of flying that long in a dirty cabin just yuck.
Complained to BA Customer Services. Charming lady called Gemma replied 48 hours later. Apologises profusely, acknowledges that the plane was delayed flying in, as a result of delay turnaround time was shorter than normal. Understands that it is not unacceptable. On behalf BA, appreciate your business, that you're a Gold Card holder etc – truly sorry – we have passed on comments to team yada yada yada – then was about to hang up when I discussed compensation.
Mood changes – Gemma's affronted. "We will offer a 'token gesture' to apologise of 5k Avios but that's all we can give I'm afraid". Discussion on how that is unacceptable ensues, that this is the 3rd time in 3 years that this has happened on a ClubWorld flight, last time there was a significant Avios compensation. I'm told while she appreciates where "I'm coming from", there is absolutely NO WAY that British Airways will compensate any more than the "gesture" of apology. I asked her what she would expect if I was her. She said "An apology, which is why I called". I count til til ten.
So let me get this right. A passenger buys a premium product, in allegedly the best seat in the house. It's filthy and does not meet expectations. BA totally and completely acknowledges that it is their fault and that service is below par. But yet no desire to compensate? So you fly a dirty plane did not deliver on your service quality and expect us to roll over and accept? After many times this has happened?
What should we do? I'm miffed and somewhat unsurprised, but this is really unacceptable...
1A and 1B Clubworld
Absolutely disgustingly filthy seats on boarding, Korean spice paste (what we hope is) all over the panels, screen, remote control, seat. Damp seat too. Cabin crew were appalled and did a great job cleaning up – but really? 11 hours of flying when clearly not ready to fly? Just a sour end to an otherwise great trip, we don't have OCD but the thought of flying that long in a dirty cabin just yuck.
Complained to BA Customer Services. Charming lady called Gemma replied 48 hours later. Apologises profusely, acknowledges that the plane was delayed flying in, as a result of delay turnaround time was shorter than normal. Understands that it is not unacceptable. On behalf BA, appreciate your business, that you're a Gold Card holder etc – truly sorry – we have passed on comments to team yada yada yada – then was about to hang up when I discussed compensation.
Mood changes – Gemma's affronted. "We will offer a 'token gesture' to apologise of 5k Avios but that's all we can give I'm afraid". Discussion on how that is unacceptable ensues, that this is the 3rd time in 3 years that this has happened on a ClubWorld flight, last time there was a significant Avios compensation. I'm told while she appreciates where "I'm coming from", there is absolutely NO WAY that British Airways will compensate any more than the "gesture" of apology. I asked her what she would expect if I was her. She said "An apology, which is why I called". I count til til ten.
So let me get this right. A passenger buys a premium product, in allegedly the best seat in the house. It's filthy and does not meet expectations. BA totally and completely acknowledges that it is their fault and that service is below par. But yet no desire to compensate? So you fly a dirty plane did not deliver on your service quality and expect us to roll over and accept? After many times this has happened?
What should we do? I'm miffed and somewhat unsurprised, but this is really unacceptable...
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Instructions from on high at BA are that compensation given out for incidents like this have been cut across the board. I think you'll struggle to get any more than what you've already been offered.
I do agree that this is not acceptable, however getting a chunk of Avios doesn't really compensate to my mind. As you say it would ruin my whole flight and isn't something that can be easily forgotten about.
I do agree that this is not acceptable, however getting a chunk of Avios doesn't really compensate to my mind. As you say it would ruin my whole flight and isn't something that can be easily forgotten about.
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Start flying ke is the answer that springs to mind. Spotless planes, better seats, better food, and frequently cheaper fares. 3 times the problem with the magnitude you describe would be too much for me
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I think you will find that most everyone on the forum would agree that this is unacceptable.
What seems to be policy now from BA is that Avios as a form of service recovery has been severely curtailed. So your realistic choices are to take the 5k and move on, and base your future flying decisions accordingly, or bang your head against the proverbial brick wall pushing for more.
However you decide, best of luck!
What seems to be policy now from BA is that Avios as a form of service recovery has been severely curtailed. So your realistic choices are to take the 5k and move on, and base your future flying decisions accordingly, or bang your head against the proverbial brick wall pushing for more.
However you decide, best of luck!
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1) Take it as far as you possibly can with BA (Cruz's office?), with the full expectation that you will get nowhere
2) Threaten court action for recovery of monetary compensation for an amount which is reasonable, and you can justify (this last bit is quite important)
Personal opinion is that it's not worth the stress. Switch your airline if it's happened 3 times - that's unacceptable.
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The only sequence that springs to mind is:
1) Take it as far as you possibly can with BA (Cruz's office?), with the full expectation that you will get nowhere
2) Threaten court action for recovery of monetary compensation for an amount which is reasonable, and you can justify (this last bit is quite important)
Personal opinion is that it's not worth the stress. Switch your airline if it's happened 3 times - that's unacceptable.
1) Take it as far as you possibly can with BA (Cruz's office?), with the full expectation that you will get nowhere
2) Threaten court action for recovery of monetary compensation for an amount which is reasonable, and you can justify (this last bit is quite important)
Personal opinion is that it's not worth the stress. Switch your airline if it's happened 3 times - that's unacceptable.
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Well, some on this board are predicting a Tesco-esque demise...
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Change your airline choice if you remain unhappy, the litigation route (for such a small value and uncertain claim) isn't worth wasting your time and energy on. Vote with your feet, that would be my course of action if I become irreparably unhappy with a vendor/service provider.
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Yes when thinking of this I was reminded of the famous saying "people get the leaders they deserve". If we as customers keep accepting this as ok then BA's track record indicates they will shirk more and more of their responsibilities.
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Voting with your feet is the future resolution, but shouting about your experience for the purpose of telling Mr Cruz what is going on (and with no expectation of substantial compensation) would be the best action to take based on principle.
Sorry for your bad experience, it is a bit of a kick in the teeth as you say.
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If you're not happy with BA and compensation, just choose best airlines for the route and stop being loyal. When flying business, access to lounges is part of the package any way.
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The papers may well be quite receptive, given their recent coverage of the meal enhancements. But I would guess they'd be more receptive to a picture of a Y seat than a J or F one!