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Old Sep 23, 15, 10:29 pm   #1
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Booking Class I in MH - how can I tell before I book

I had a flight LHR-KUL-CGK-HKG-LHR in August

LHR-KUL in CW with BA
KUL-CGK in Business with MH
CGK-HKG in Business with CX
HKG-LHR in F with BA

All Tier Points and Avios posted except the tier points for the KUL-CGK segment. On query with BA I was told initially that the booking was in Economy. Having scanned my BP to Newcastle I was told the booking was in Business but in Booking Class I and that does not attract Tier Points.

Okay I can stand the loss of 40 TP and put it down to experience but how do I tell when making a booking on BA.com what the tier points are going to be before I make the booking. The above booking was made via BA.com

Any advice for the future would be welcome.
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Old Sep 23, 15, 11:03 pm   #2
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In the booking process, once you select the flight, just click on the left where it says "more details" and alongside plane type, etc, you will see something like "books into I (business) - books into A (first)".

You can then check on the executive club pages how many TPs/Avios you will get for the flight.
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Old Sep 23, 15, 11:19 pm   #3
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Thank you for a prompt and helpful reply.
However following BA's reply I looked at the calculator on the TP for the trip showing MH as the airline and it was not showing an I booking class. If I put the airline in as BA then it did have an I booking class but that showed 40 TPs.
It still does.
Is this one of the famous IT glitches?
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Old Sep 23, 15, 11:32 pm   #4
  
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No, it's correct. I class isn't shown for MH because it's not eligible for earning any TPs or avios.

It would be helpful, however, if the calculator included a little asterisk note to highlight this.
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Old Sep 24, 15, 12:36 am   #5
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No, it's correct. I class isn't shown for MH because it's not eligible for earning any TPs or avios.

It would be helpful, however, if the calculator included a little asterisk note to highlight this.
It would be better if all booking classes were shown in the calculator and those that do not attract Avios and/or TPs show 0 as the value. Less chance of confusion.
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Old Sep 24, 15, 2:09 am   #6
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Thanks Orbitmic, Ldnn1 and Tobias-UK for your help
I am slowly getting educated in the ways of BA
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know why BA does not allow you to earn TPs on I class fares with MH? You earn them on every other partner (I think at least).
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Old Sep 24, 15, 2:36 am   #8
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This post on a blog may give you a method of finding boking classes on the MH webiste when booking.

http://flystaytravel.com/how-to-find...lines-flights/

For avios and TP earning in economy on MH:
- L, V, S, K, M, Y, B, and H earn avios and TPs
- N, Q, O, and G earn nothing

For avios and TP earning in business on MH:
- J, C, D, and Z earn avios and TPs
- I earns nothing

For avios and TP earning in first on MH:
- F and A ean avios and TPs
- P earns nothing
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Old Sep 24, 15, 2:57 am   #9
  
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know why BA does not allow you to earn TPs on I class fares with MH? You earn them on every other partner (I think at least).
It's MH rather than BA that doesn't award the points. The reasoning is that I class is their cheap as chips airport-upgrade class. However, they seem to be oblivious (or just don't care) that it's also a selling class used for business class connections from other partners, like QR and BA.
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know why BA does not allow you to earn TPs on I class fares with MH? You earn them on every other partner (I think at least).
I don't think its so much a case of BA not allowing it, but rather MH not "paying" BA for it (however the cross alliance "payments" work?).
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Old Sep 24, 15, 3:30 am   #11
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For avios and TP earning in economy on MH:
- L, V, S, K, M, Y, B, and H earn avios and TPs
- N, Q, O, and G earn nothing

For avios and TP earning in business on MH:
- J, C, D, and Z earn avios and TPs
- I earns nothing

For avios and TP earning in first on MH:
- F and A ean avios and TPs
- P earns nothing
For anyone curious about booking classes on other airlines, one quick route is to look at the graphics in the post in the sticky: Your guide to the Executive Club, attaining status and earning Avios | 2015 (and see also the quick reference table linked to from my signature). If it's not listed as earning, it doesn't earn.
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Old Sep 24, 15, 4:00 am   #12
  
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It's MH rather than BA that doesn't award the points. The reasoning is that I class is their cheap as chips airport-upgrade class. However, they seem to be oblivious (or just don't care) that it's also a selling class used for business class connections from other partners, like QR and BA.
Ah interesting... well I guess the result is all of us avoid them whenever possible.

I'm sure there's a cost analysis on their side somewhere that justifies the revenue loss
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Old Sep 24, 15, 6:13 am   #13
  
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Is I on MH considered an "award" in Business Class... that's why it isn't awarding Avios and TPs?
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Is I on MH considered an "award" in Business Class... that's why it isn't awarding Avios and TPs?
It's the code used for the MHUpgrade program - which probably explains it.
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Old Dec 25, 16, 12:21 am   #15
  
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MH I and Q class TP earning?

Bump!

Wondered if the I class situation had changed? Friend had I class ticket credited with 40TPs.

Also, does Q remain zero-earning?

All research or insider knowledge welcome...
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