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Old Jan 16, 2016, 1:41 am
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Super Hi–J 747 (74S)

•Seatplan:



•Reconfiguration/Refurbishment Dates:

All Complete
31Jul–09Sep - G-CIVF - Complete
30Oct–28Nov - G-CIVS - Complete
28Nov–23Dec - G-CIVW - Complete
28Nov–23Dec - G-BYGE - Complete
02Jan–27Jan - G-CIVV - Complete
11Jan–05Feb - G-CIVR - Complete
30Jan–24Feb - G-BYGF - Complete
05Feb–01Mar - G-BYGA - Complete
24Feb–20Mar - G-CIVX - Complete
01Mar–04Apr - G-CIVH - Complete
20Mar–16Apr - G-BYGD - Complete
04Apr–29Apr - G-BYGG - Complete
16Apr–15May - G-CIVY - Complete
29Apr-24May - G-CIVZ - Complete
15May–09Jun - G-CIVI - Complete
24May–24Jun - G-BYGC - Complete
09Jun–06Jul - G-CIVG - Complete
21Jun–14Jul - G-BYGB - Complete

The following flying schedule is struck through because it is now obsolete, but left in place for now as an archive.

• Planned Flying Schedule 01Jun17>31Aug17
(NB times stated in LOCAL subject to change):[/b]

BOSTON

CHICAGO

DUBAI
BA107 LHR1255 – DXB2310 Mon/Wed/Thu
BA107 LHR1300 – DXB2315 Fri

BA106 DXB0110 – LHR0555 Fri
BA106 DXB0130 – LHR0615 Tue/Thu/Sat

JOHANNESBURG
BA57 LHR2125 – JNB0915 Mon/Tue/Wed/Fri/Sun

BA54 JNB2045 – LHR0655 Mon/Wed/Thu
BA54 JNB2110 – LHR0720 Tue/Sat

KUWAIT
BA157 LHR2155 – KWI0605 xWed

BA156 KWI0820 – LHR1315 xThu

NEW YORK JFK


RIYADH
BA263 LHR1345 – RUH2230 Mon/Wed/Thu

BA262 RUH0035 – LHR0535 Tue/Thu/Fri

SEATTLE
BA49 LHR1530 – SEA1710 Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat/Sun

BA48 SEA1915 – LHR1225 Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat/Sun

WASHINGTON
BA217 LHR0940 – IAD1245 Daily [1-31May, 1-31Aug]

BA216 IAD1800 – LHR0620 Daily [1-31May, 1-31Aug]
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 8:05 am
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So when is G-CIVF flying in service next, quite surprised it came in from CWL and has been on the ground for nearly three days, unless of course various proving runs and tests are going on while the aircraft is on the ground.
G–CIVF is indeed having ground trials / tests. Mainly for the new IFE system.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by weero
BA is spending money for life support of the 744s ?
This is fairly simple. It costs significantly less to partly refurbish an aircraft than purchase a new one. The aircraft being partly refurbished aren't end-of-life yet.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
Other than their fuel consumption, there's nothing much wrong with them that some cabin maintenance wouldn't fix.
The noise levels won't go down much with a new paint job.
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This is fairly simple. It costs significantly less to partly refurbish an aircraft than purchase a new one.
That must be the sole reason. If oil prices stayed high, fleet modernisation would have progressed more rapidly. But then we'd see more of these shabby 787s that aren't that great either .
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by TCX69
G–CIVF is indeed having ground trials / tests. Mainly for the new IFE system.

It's first flight back online is planned to be:

15SEP
BA117 LHR/JFK
BA114 JFK/LHR
Now...were are my £300 fares in CW for this flight?
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by weero
The noise levels won't go down much with a new paint job.
As I said, there's nothing much wrong with the 747s.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
Originally Posted by weero
The noise levels won't go down much with a new paint job.
As I said, there's nothing much wrong with the 747s.
I can't hear you ... I flew 744s too often ...
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 7:50 am
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Originally Posted by weero
I can't hear you ... I flew 744s too often ...
I wasn't aware anyone has lost hearing due to flying in 747s.

Some of us prefer the 747 over an A380. The youngest BA ones have 10 years of servicable life in them and I shall try and fly as many as possible before they go.
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 7:59 am
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Is there any information about when the remaining candidates will be sent off for refurbishment or will they want to run CIVF for a while first to make sure they've got all the bugs out?

And am I correct in understanding that all the 744s that aren't part of this refurbishment will be retired soon (for whatever value of "soon")?
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 8:03 am
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And am I correct in understanding that all the 744s that aren't part of this refurbishment will be retired soon (for whatever value of "soon")?
I don't think so. As I understand it only 18 aircraft are being refurbed and it will be many years yet before there are only 18 747s left in the fleet.

Would be delighted to be corrected if I'm wrong though!
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by weero
I can't hear you ... I flew 744s too often ...

WHAT?



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Old Sep 13, 2015, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1
I don't think so. As I understand it only 18 aircraft are being refurbed and it will be many years yet before there are only 18 747s left in the fleet.

Would be delighted to be corrected if I'm wrong though!
Well, I really hope that before too long there'll be no aircraft with the Rockwell Collins IFE on the JFK route. I actively try to only book on 777-operated flights because I find the Thales IFE so much better for distracting me during a long flight. I'd actually prefer to fly Y with Thales over W with Rockwell Collins.
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by rpjs
Is there any information about when the remaining candidates will be sent off for refurbishment or will they want to run CIVF for a while first to make sure they've got all the bugs out?

And am I correct in understanding that all the 744s that aren't part of this refurbishment will be retired soon (for whatever value of "soon")?
The currently known information is in the retirements tracker post (link in my signature).
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 9:46 am
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The currently known information is in the retirements tracker post (link in my signature).
From a quick count of those numbers it looks like approx. 6 aircraft whose retirement isn't planned until late 2018/2019, and a further 12 or so with no planned date yet (presumably later than 2019).

Am I right in thinking that the ones going from hi-J to mid-J won't get the refurb, just a basic seat swap?
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1
From a quick count of those numbers it looks like approx. 6 aircraft whose retirement isn't planned until late 2018/2019, and a further 12 or so with no planned date yet (presumably later than 2019).
I'm not quite sure what you mean here. There are 42 aircraft, and 12 of them have planned retirement dates (subject to change) over a period up to March 2019. That makes 30 with no planned retirement dates known.
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Old Sep 13, 2015, 10:24 am
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I'm not quite sure what you mean here. There are 42 aircraft, and 12 of them have planned retirement dates (subject to change) over a period up to March 2019. That makes 30 with no planned retirement dates known.
I meant excluding the 18 getting the refurb... in relation to npjs's question about whether the unrefurbished a/c are retiring soon.
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