QF operated by EK questions
Aug 13, 2015, 5:12 am
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QF operated by EK questions
A quick couple of questions:
Booking QF LHR-BNE and MEL-LHR. Part of the trip is codeshared on EK.
1. Will I earn tier points on all sectors?
2. As a BA silver member, do I use the QF lounges in transit even though the next leg would be on EK?
Thanks!
Booking QF LHR-BNE and MEL-LHR. Part of the trip is codeshared on EK.
1. Will I earn tier points on all sectors?
2. As a BA silver member, do I use the QF lounges in transit even though the next leg would be on EK?
Thanks!
Aug 13, 2015, 11:00 am
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I will credit my BAEC account.
From what I have now found out, I should get credited for every sector.
OW have now become so stingy though that I will get less than half the TPs I would have gotten seeing as they no longer credit all the TPs regardless of the ticket class. Looks like I need to buy a Y, B or H class of ticket to get full TPs.
I assume I can still use the lounge on the sectors that are operated by EK, but still ticketed by QF?
From what I have now found out, I should get credited for every sector.
OW have now become so stingy though that I will get less than half the TPs I would have gotten seeing as they no longer credit all the TPs regardless of the ticket class. Looks like I need to buy a Y, B or H class of ticket to get full TPs.
I assume I can still use the lounge on the sectors that are operated by EK, but still ticketed by QF?
Last edited by PAL62V; Aug 13, 2015 at 11:05 am
Aug 13, 2015, 11:31 am
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I will credit my BAEC account.
From what I have now found out, I should get credited for every sector.
OW have now become so stingy though that I will get less than half the TPs I would have gotten seeing as they no longer credit all the TPs regardless of the ticket class. Looks like I need to buy a Y, B or H class of ticket to get full TPs.
I assume I can still use the lounge on the sectors that are operated by EK, but still ticketed by QF?
From what I have now found out, I should get credited for every sector.
OW have now become so stingy though that I will get less than half the TPs I would have gotten seeing as they no longer credit all the TPs regardless of the ticket class. Looks like I need to buy a Y, B or H class of ticket to get full TPs.
I assume I can still use the lounge on the sectors that are operated by EK, but still ticketed by QF?
BAEC made a change awhile back allowing tier points to be earned on QF codeshares operated by EK (previously only avios could be earned). See these threads in the BA forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-points-2.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...t-miles-2.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...codeshare.html
Whose lounges are wanting to use? What class are you flying? Under oneworld lounge access rules you are not entitled to access based upon your oneworld sapphire status as the flight you want access for has to be marketed and operated by a oneworld airline.. See:
oneworld lounge access for frequent flyers by tier status
Enjoy exclusive access to premium airport lounges around the world with oneworld Emerald or Sapphire frequent flyer tier status. Members of oneworld airline frequent flyer programmes with the equivalent of oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status can use lounges offered by oneworld airlines when departing on any flight marketed and operated by any oneworld member airline, regardless of cabin class being flown (exceptions are noted below).
Emerald tier frequent flyers can use First Class, Business Class or frequent flyer lounges.
Sapphire tier frequent flyers are welcome in Business Class* or frequent flyer lounges. (*does not include Qantas Domestic Business Lounges)
Emerald and Sapphire members may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier.
You must be prepared to show your boarding pass and frequent flyer membership card, with oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status, to access a lounge.
The following exceptions apply:
1. American Airlines, US Airways and Qantas offer programmes enabling customers to pay to gain access to their lounges. These programmes are not part of the oneworld agreement, and members of these programmes are not entitled to access lounges under the oneworld agreement.
2. American Airlines AAdvantage® members and US Airways Dividend Miles members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. For more information, visit, http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...miralsClub.jsp and http://www.usairways.com/en-US/trave...b/default.html
3. Qantas Frequent Flyer Gold members, regardless of their oneworld tier status, cannot access Qantas Domestic Business Lounges.
4. Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha and Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4 are excluded.
Enjoy exclusive access to premium airport lounges around the world with oneworld Emerald or Sapphire frequent flyer tier status. Members of oneworld airline frequent flyer programmes with the equivalent of oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status can use lounges offered by oneworld airlines when departing on any flight marketed and operated by any oneworld member airline, regardless of cabin class being flown (exceptions are noted below).
Emerald tier frequent flyers can use First Class, Business Class or frequent flyer lounges.
Sapphire tier frequent flyers are welcome in Business Class* or frequent flyer lounges. (*does not include Qantas Domestic Business Lounges)
Emerald and Sapphire members may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier.
You must be prepared to show your boarding pass and frequent flyer membership card, with oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status, to access a lounge.
The following exceptions apply:
1. American Airlines, US Airways and Qantas offer programmes enabling customers to pay to gain access to their lounges. These programmes are not part of the oneworld agreement, and members of these programmes are not entitled to access lounges under the oneworld agreement.
2. American Airlines AAdvantage® members and US Airways Dividend Miles members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. For more information, visit, http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...miralsClub.jsp and http://www.usairways.com/en-US/trave...b/default.html
3. Qantas Frequent Flyer Gold members, regardless of their oneworld tier status, cannot access Qantas Domestic Business Lounges.
4. Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha and Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4 are excluded.
See also:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...tes-metal.html
There are some threads in the QF forum that discuss QF having a special accommodation with EK to accept oneworld sapphires and emeralds that are traveling on a QF codeshare of EK metal to use the EK lounges. See:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...sapphires.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...ge-access.html
Aug 13, 2015, 11:49 am
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Aug 13, 2015, 1:18 pm
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You will earn both Avios and Tier Points on QF-coded but EK-operated flights as per BA's flight earnings chart for Qantas.
Assuming you're connecting in DXB, Qantas use Emirates' T3 Concourse A there, meaning that the lounges will be EK-operated. Travelling on QF flights, oneworld status for lounge access should be honoured, but I'm not sure what the policy is when EK flights come into the mix on the same ticket. Other airline lounges, including BA's, are in concourse C and there are Priority Pass options throughout.
You may want to be aware of some of the dangers of booking QF codeshares on EK, but I would imagine that the problems retold in that thread wouldn't apply so much at DXB since it's Qantas' hub for European flights.
Executive Club Members can collect Avios on the following flights: [...]
- flights marketed by Qantas or Qantas Airlines affiliates and operated by Qantas, a Qantas Affiliate, BA, another oneworld carrier, or another third party under a codeshare agreement
- flights marketed by Qantas or Qantas Airlines affiliates and operated by Qantas, a Qantas Affiliate, BA, another oneworld carrier, or another third party under a codeshare agreement
You may want to be aware of some of the dangers of booking QF codeshares on EK, but I would imagine that the problems retold in that thread wouldn't apply so much at DXB since it's Qantas' hub for European flights.
Last edited by notforfooduse; Aug 13, 2015 at 1:27 pm
Aug 13, 2015, 5:42 pm
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It's QF coded. I rang BA and finally got a straight answer today. They will credit both TPs and Avios, although at the lower fare class it's much lower than I would have had a year ago.
Thanks for all the info. Looks like the lounge is out when waiting for the sector being operated by EK. Bummer.
Great info here folks - I don't think I could have found all that out searching all day!
Thanks for all the info. Looks like the lounge is out when waiting for the sector being operated by EK. Bummer.
Great info here folks - I don't think I could have found all that out searching all day!
Aug 13, 2015, 6:03 pm
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When you buy a QF marketed flight QF buys avois (from BAEC) and rewards (bribes) you with these for flying QF. Part of the cash transaction from QF to BA will have a contribution for status earning/status bonus obligation. BA will known how much $$ they get from QF (over a year) have how many avois/tier points they allocate out to the punters for QF marketed flights. IF QF wanted to bribe you with a squillion avios for a economy UK-Aussie flight they could (but would need to pay BAEC a lot of cash). Is all about the money.