Very hot cabins

Old Mar 6, 2015, 6:32 pm
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Very hot cabins

I noticed that my domestic return flight to LHR on Thursday evening had a very hot cabin throughout the flight. Usually I would have used the overhead air vents to cool myself down but there were none above my seat row!

It was so uncomfortably hot that I was sweating for most of the flight. At a guess I would have said that the cabin temperature was around 26 to 28 degrees Celsius.

The plane was an A319 that looks like it had been used for European flights as it had the CE curtain partitions.

Why are cabins so uncomfortably hot sometimes?
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Old Mar 6, 2015, 7:45 pm
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I find this to be an ongoing problem on LH flights also. I always nefariously assumed the crew wants people to sleep! More likely it is medoicre environmental controls...but I'd love to know why there are no more individual air vents. Surely not everyone is comfortable at the same temperature?
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Old Mar 6, 2015, 7:57 pm
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It's been a pretty common complaint over the years. Some of the more cynical say it is to encourage passengers to sleep (more relevant on long haul). See some of these threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ot-cabins.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...them-down.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24285891-post502.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24286626-post505.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ture-down.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...t-flights.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ot-cabins.html
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Old Mar 6, 2015, 8:21 pm
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This might be a daft question but why are there no individual air vents on BA 777s and 747s in premium classes*? There are on the AA 77W aircraft and it's useful to be able to get some cool air if it's getting a little warm.

*I can't comment on WT and WT+.
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Old Mar 6, 2015, 8:23 pm
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I always used to find BA cabins way too hot but my 2 BA TATL flights last week were actually quite cold in the cabin. I found this a welcome change especially for sleeping on the eastbound^
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Old Mar 6, 2015, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by golfmad
This might be a daft question but why are there no individual air vents on BA 777s and 747s in premium classes*? There are on the AA 77W aircraft and it's useful to be able to get some cool air if it's getting a little warm.

*I can't comment on WT and WT+.
I believe that the gaspers (air vents) are a customer option.

Edited to add:
See also this posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21895669-post37.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22114114-post50.html

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Old Mar 6, 2015, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Crampedin13A
I always used to find BA cabins way too hot but my 2 BA TATL flights last week were actually quite cold in the cabin. I found this a welcome change especially for sleeping on the eastbound^
I was in 39K (WT) on a 747 yesterday and it got progressively colder during the flight (LHR to SFO). I was really cold by the time I arrived. There didn't seem to be an individual air vent blowing on me. More like cold air all along the the side. Have changed to another seat for the return. Will be bad enough being uncomfortable without being cold as well. Mind, there were people in t shirts so maybe other parts of the cabin were hot.
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Old Mar 7, 2015, 12:50 am
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It was noticeably warm in 1A on the overnight UVF-LGW on Thursday night
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Old Mar 7, 2015, 12:56 am
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Indeed certain refitted 319s do not have vents on certain rows. Rows 6 and 9 are affected, I guess some further back as well, though that would be unchartered territory for me...... I think it is unfortunate affect of squeezing the seats together, the upper area has some constraints over where the air supply can emerge, therefore some seats won't get a vent.
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Is it to save fuel? Last week I honestly thought that the air-con had stopped working or was faulty. It's thoroughly unpleasant to disembark the aircraft with your shirt sticking to your skin because of sweat!

The pax next to me spent a lot of the time fanning themselves with the safety card.

The issue was exasperated because our row had no air vents above our seats (row 6 on an A319) but other rows did. I found that a bit odd too!

Fortunately it was a very short flight.

Edit: just saw C-W-S post about lack of air vents on some rows.
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Old Mar 7, 2015, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by rumbataz
It was so uncomfortably hot that I was sweating for most of the flight. At a guess I would have said that the cabin temperature was around 26 to 28 degrees Celsius.
Ever since the cabins have been refreshed I've noticed that the cabins have become even more hot! Not sure what has changed but as you say it becomes very uncomfortable!

Originally Posted by rumbataz
The plane was an A319 that looks like it had been used for European flights as it had the CE curtain partitions.
On the refreshed A319's the side cabin dividers are now stowed at row 9 on domestic routes, as apposed to behind the last row on the non-refreshed ones.
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Old Mar 7, 2015, 3:45 am
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The aircraft's air conditioning units are sometimes not switched on to save fuel.

Last year my BA long haul flight was delayed because the 747 cabin was 30 degrees with the aircraft parked in direct sun light but the air temperature at LHR was 24 degrees. Couple this with the fact that cooling of the cabin when necessary is no longer done by the aircraft's own APU as this uses fuel but often by air supplied from the air bridge.
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Old Mar 7, 2015, 4:20 am
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I was in WTP to YYV on a 788 last month, it was noticeably hotter than down the back. Asked the CSD or whatever to check, we had a look and all WT zones were set to 22deg and WTP 24deg. She kindly dropped it to 23.

Isn't 24 far too high?!
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Old Mar 7, 2015, 5:51 am
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I found the LHR T5 Flounge extremely warm on Thursday morning as well. We were stripping out every removable layer we had on. Is this a BA culture thing?
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next it will be getting blamed on the Polar icecaps
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